Stream: Vulcan/ePI
Topic: DocumentManifest usage
Jens Villadsen (Jan 12 2022 at 08:25):
@John Moehrke feel free to add your remarks on the use of DocumentManifest here in regards to ePI
John Moehrke (Jan 12 2022 at 13:03):
DocumentManifest is going away in R5. There was very little uptake as most found that DocumentReference and List were sufficient.
John Moehrke (Jan 12 2022 at 13:04):
IHE has moved the Mobile access to Health Documents (MHD) implementation guide away from DocumentManifest, and now use DocumentReference and List.
Here is the Implementation Guide from IHE on MHD - https://profiles.ihe.net/ITI/MHD/
John Moehrke (Jan 12 2022 at 13:05):
John Moehrke said:
DocumentManifest is going away in R5. There was very little uptake as most found that DocumentReference and List were sufficient.
note, this is a prediction... not a fact. The use-cases DocumentManifest were defiend for, work fine with List.
Craig Anderson (Jan 12 2022 at 14:41):
Thanks John, we’ll look into using DocumentReference in the place of DocumentManifest
John Moehrke (Jan 12 2022 at 14:46):
if you have questions, please poke me. DocumentReference is not specific to "CDA Documents", it is intended to enable describing/discovery of any kind of document or for any kind of object that is not a FHIR Resource (not to say it can't point at a FHIR Observation, that would just not be useful).
Giorgio Cangioli (Jan 14 2022 at 19:26):
In my understanding DocumentReference is about 'a' document ('A reference to a document of any kind for any purpose.'; 'The DocumentReference resource provides metadata about the document') not to a collection of Documents. ..
Giorgio Cangioli (Jan 14 2022 at 19:27):
While the DocumentManifest "gathers a set of Resources into a single package with some clinical context "
Giorgio Cangioli (Jan 14 2022 at 19:30):
My understanding is that the DocumentManifest, created for supporting the IHE SubmissionSet (please correct me if I'm wrong), is no more needed for that purpose. But there are other cases where this resource is used to provide metadata for subject-level collection of documents (beyond IHE transactions)
Giorgio Cangioli (Jan 14 2022 at 19:44):
Based on these experiences it has been used in the FHIR for FAIR guide.
But ok also to stay with the List solution.
John Moehrke (Jan 14 2022 at 21:19):
IHE saw no one else using DocumentManifest... and without others using the Resource it would have never gone Normative. So we decided to use List for the purpose. As I indicated above.
Last updated: Apr 12 2022 at 19:14 UTC
