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Topic: COVID certificate IG


view this post on Zulip Daniel Karlsson (May 25 2021 at 10:06):

@Giorgio Cangioli @Christof Gessner @Hynek Kružík
Some decisions to make:

  • should we give EU-specific names to ValueSets, e.g. covid-19-diseases --> eu-dcc-covid-19-diseases? I believe these are specific to the EU.
  • should we remove all bindings for Observation.code for test results (and add binding to Observation.method)?

view this post on Zulip Giorgio Cangioli (May 25 2021 at 10:36):

Daniel Karlsson said:

Giorgio Cangioli Christof Gessner Hynek Kružík
Some decisions to make:

  • should we give EU-specific names to ValueSets, e.g. covid-19-diseases --> eu-dcc-covid-19-diseases? I believe these are specific to the EU.

no preferences, in any case the canonical url of this value set will tell you that this value set is defined for the EU DCC IG

view this post on Zulip Giorgio Cangioli (May 25 2021 at 10:43):

Daniel Karlsson said:

Giorgio Cangioli Christof Gessner Hynek Kružík

  • should we remove all bindings for Observation.code for test results (and add binding to Observation.method)?

mmhh not totally convinced about removing the binding ..

view this post on Zulip Giorgio Cangioli (May 25 2021 at 10:45):

if not relevant for the certificate and if we'd like to leave some freedom for the national derived guides we can choose to make the binding with the COVID test codes preferred or example (instead of extensible)

view this post on Zulip Giorgio Cangioli (May 25 2021 at 10:49):

if https://build.fhir.org/ig/hl7-eu/dgc/ValueSet-covid-19-lab-methods.html is what is relevant for the tests, we could make the element MS. I 'd add the binding in any case...

view this post on Zulip Daniel Karlsson (May 25 2021 at 11:16):

Should we slice on code system to include NPU codes as well then? Or just leave it open? For just Observation.code that is.

view this post on Zulip Daniel Karlsson (May 25 2021 at 12:48):

Giorgio Cangioli said:

Daniel Karlsson said:

Giorgio Cangioli Christof Gessner Hynek Kružík
Some decisions to make:

  • should we give EU-specific names to ValueSets, e.g. covid-19-diseases --> eu-dcc-covid-19-diseases? I believe these are specific to the EU.

no preferences, in any case the canonical url of this value set will tell you that this value set is defined for the EU DCC IG

If we aim to keep the IG to be used for SVC and EU DCC we would need to specify somewhere that the ValueSet is specific to the EU implementaion.

view this post on Zulip Giorgio Cangioli (May 25 2021 at 13:25):

Daniel Karlsson said:

Should we slice on code system to include NPU codes as well then? Or just leave it open? For just Observation.code that is.

Yes this could be a good approach.
In this case should we keep in the guide also the LOINC / NPU value sets map(s) ?

view this post on Zulip Giorgio Cangioli (May 25 2021 at 13:29):

Daniel Karlsson said:

If we aim to keep the IG to be used for SVC and EU DCC we would need to specify somewhere that the ValueSet is specific to the EU implementation.

sorry.. :-( .. not clear to me what do you exactly mean...

view this post on Zulip Christof Gessner (May 25 2021 at 17:33):

bullet #2 requires some terminfo discussions beforehand...

view this post on Zulip Jens Villadsen (May 25 2021 at 23:42):

Why is it considered to make bindings beyond the term bindings of what is stated in the DGC? Is there a use case building a COVID certificate beyond that?

view this post on Zulip Kevin Mayfield (May 26 2021 at 07:55):

Do we have a mapping from FHIR to Digital Green Certificate? (I think UK+Denmark are doing this but I can't confirm)

view this post on Zulip Giorgio Cangioli (May 26 2021 at 07:59):

Kevin Mayfield said:

Do we have a mapping from FHIR to Digital Green Certificate? (I think UK+Denmark are doing this but I can't conform)

The guide includes/will include a forward and a backward mapping between the FHIR profiles and the elements used in the JSON schemas. The content of the JSON schema are/will be represented as FHIR logical model.

view this post on Zulip Giorgio Cangioli (May 26 2021 at 08:01):

there is not (or not yet ?) structure maps that makes this transformation automatic.
But if there is anyone planning to develop them we could add to the guide...

view this post on Zulip Jens Villadsen (May 31 2021 at 18:37):

Kevin Mayfield said:

Do we have a mapping from FHIR to Digital Green Certificate? (I think UK+Denmark are doing this but I can't confirm)

Im pretty sure DK didn't end up using FHIR as I'm the one leading the team that built it.

view this post on Zulip Kevin Mayfield (Jun 01 2021 at 05:45):

@Jens Villadsen hmm.... the English coronapass starts off as Immunization and Observation FHIR API's. Had assumed it was ending up a Digital Green Cert (it may be), like DK (is that DGC?).

view this post on Zulip Jens Villadsen (Jun 01 2021 at 06:35):

FHIR has low traction on the national level in DK, so nothing starts out as FHIR there - and yes, DK uses DGC

view this post on Zulip Kevin Mayfield (Jun 01 2021 at 07:49):

cheers I think that implies we are also using dgc.... (believe for political reasons we aren't saying so)


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