Stream: fhir/infrastructure-wg
Topic: Today's call
Lloyd McKenzie (Aug 10 2018 at 18:29):
Reminder that we have a call today from 3-5 Eastern. https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/696476549
Josh Mandel (Aug 12 2019 at 13:00):
I'd like to put on today's agenda a vote for approving https://confluence.hl7.org/display/FHIRI/Bulk+Data+Publication+Request, assuming @Ricky Sahu confirms that the outstanding errors/earnings have been addressed (https://build.fhir.org/ig/HL7/bulk-data/qa.html#internal)
@FHIR-I Co-chairs
Josh Mandel (Aug 12 2019 at 13:01):
Note that the majority appear spurious, with many repeats of
- The link 'http://hl7.org/fhir/' for "FHIR 4.0.0" cannot be resolved
- The link 'http://hl7.org/fhir-issues' for "Propose a change" cannot be resolved
(Both of which I think should be valid)
Ricky Sahu (Aug 12 2019 at 17:25):
I only have the 330-4 block available and will join the meeting at that time today
Josh Mandel (Aug 12 2019 at 17:37):
Can you clarify whether you'll be able to fix the build errors beforehand?
Ricky Sahu (Aug 12 2019 at 18:47):
fixes for all build errors r in, josh will merge after a review
Josh Mandel (Aug 12 2019 at 18:52):
Merged, thanks @Ricky Sahu! New QA at http://build.fhir.org/ig/HL7/bulk-data/qa.html shows only one error, which looks like a bug in the build tool rather than the spec (FYI @Grahame Grieve)
Grahame Grieve (Aug 12 2019 at 18:58):
yes. well be fixed next release
Grahame Grieve (Aug 12 2019 at 19:01):
I'm joining the call, but I don't know if bandwidth will be good enough. (I am in Australia, after all)
Grahame Grieve (Aug 12 2019 at 19:03):
... the meeting will begin when Lloyd joins ....
Josh Mandel (Aug 12 2019 at 20:39):
Block vote
Comment Submitters
Alexander Henket
Brian Reinhold
Bryn Rhodes
Christiaan Knaap
Craig Newman
Danielle Friend
David deRoode
Ewout Kramer
Florian Apolloner
Jenni Syed
John Moehrke
Lee Surprenant
Lin Zhang
Lloyd McKenzie
Martin Ashby
Richard Townley-O'Neill
Rick Geimer
Sean Mahoney
Ward Weistra
Line Items
GF#21028 Insufficient+documentation+on+sorted+search (Brian Reinhold) Not Persuasive
GF#22844 Element+name+%22Meta%22+instead+of+meta (Lin Zhang) Not Persuasive
GF#20621 5W+mapping+table+needs+a+legend (Craig Newman) Persuasive
GF#20629 Clean+up+http+summary+table+%28missing%2Fwrong+headers%29 (Florian Apolloner) Persuasive
GF#20630 special+handling+of+updates+to+meta+should+reference+the+%24meta+operation+for+full+support (John Moehrke) Persuasive
GF#20672 _summary+on+read+refers+to+%27Simple+Tag%27 (Christiaan Knaap) Persuasive
GF#20822 IG+publisher+documentation+points+to+outdated+Ruby%2FJekyll+install+page (David deRoode) Persuasive
GF#20839 Allow+mapping+groups+with+0+rules (Ewout Kramer) Persuasive
GF#20840 Document+that+repeating+dependent+rules+are+allowed (Ewout Kramer) Persuasive
GF#20842 Dependent+variables+should+be+of+type+%22id%22 (Ewout Kramer) Persuasive
GF#20843 Consider+removing+%27none%27+from+StructureMapGroupTypeMode (Ewout Kramer) Persuasive
GF#20844 Add+date%2C+time+and+dateTime+to+StructureMap.group.rule.target.parameter.value%5Bx%5D (Ewout Kramer) Persuasive
GF#20845 Can+%27type%27+and+%27min%27%2F%27max%27+be+used+independently%3F (Ewout Kramer) Persuasive
GF#20847 What%27s+the+purpose+of+target.contextType%3F (Ewout Kramer) Persuasive
GF#20848 Can+dependent+rules+and+nested+rules+be+combined%3F (Ewout Kramer) Persuasive
GF#20849 Make+name+optional+for+mapping+rules (Ewout Kramer) Persuasive
GF#20905 How+to+hande+an+element+with+a+choice+of+types+as+the+target+in+a+mapping+rule (Ewout Kramer) Persuasive
GF#21153 Schematron+is+missing+for+Parameters+resource+DSTU3 (Martin Ashby) Persuasive
GF#21180 Parameters+schematron+is+invalid (Martin Ashby) Persuasive
GF#21216 Typo+in+Notes+about+searching+on+Numbers (Lee Surprenant) Persuasive
GF#21223 Update+link+to+sources+for+HL7.FHIR+C%23+libraries (Christiaan Knaap) Persuasive
GF#21230 Inconsistent+guidance+on+relative+URL+format (Danielle Friend) Persuasive
GF#21272 Description+of+Task.status+%22order%22+code+is+too+narrow (Rick Geimer) Persuasive
GF#21526 Incorrect+examples+in+search+parameter+escaping+section (Lee Surprenant) Persuasive
GF#22641 Add+reference+to+our+community+guidelines+on+the+FHIR+community+page (Lloyd McKenzie) Persuasive
GF#22695 Correct+language+about+multi-language+narrative+support (Jenni Syed) Persuasive
GF#22711 Fix+for+STU3%3A+illegal+example+for+identifier.system (Alexander Henket) Persuasive
GF#22719 Updates+to+C%23+Reference+Implementation+links+on+downloads+page (Ward Weistra) Persuasive
GF#22773 Description+of+Reference+uses+%22Procedure%22+where+it+shouold+use+%22Condition%22+not+actioned (Richard Townley-O'Neill) Persuasive
GF#22840 Element-definition+Extensions+for+use+by+FHIR+Implementers+needs+updating (Sean Mahoney) Persuasive
GF#22940 Description+of+groupingId+refers+to+package.id%2C+should+be+group.id (Bryn Rhodes) Persuasive
GF#20841 Rule+source+%27default%27+should+be+of+type+string (Ewout Kramer) Persuasive with Mod
GF#20846 Should+we+align+transforms+and+FhirPath%3F (Ewout Kramer) Persuasive with Mod
Josh Mandel (Nov 25 2019 at 19:33):
Woud like to take up J#25208 if possible --and perhaps dip into bundle type discussion for subscriptions (given devdays conversations).
Josh Mandel (Aug 17 2020 at 18:41):
I'm likely to be late for today's call (meeting running over)
Grahame Grieve (Aug 24 2020 at 20:01):
doh. The registry call is next week
Josh Mandel (Aug 24 2020 at 20:05):
I was just trying to figure out where this was. Thanks for commenting here!
Grahame Grieve (Aug 24 2020 at 20:12):
@Mark Kramer those jurisdiction validation errors will be fixed next time I upgrade tx.fhir.org
Yunwei Wang (Aug 26 2020 at 17:24):
I sent an email to hl7 asking I could not join the meeting. :sweat:
Josh Mandel (Aug 31 2020 at 19:59):
Sorry, I signed off accidentally just now -- but good call today everyone, and see you next time!
Josh Mandel (Oct 26 2020 at 15:11):
Quick heads up that I am taking the day off and will miss today's call.
Gino Canessa (Nov 30 2020 at 17:57):
Could I add a discussion about the Subscription Backport IG to today's agenda please? Thanks!
Eric Haas (Nov 30 2020 at 18:06):
I would like to add a proposed patient list PSS to the agenda as well. For co-sponsorship consideration.
Yunwei Wang (Nov 30 2020 at 19:16):
I will add both to today's agenda.
Gino Canessa (Nov 30 2020 at 19:17):
Thanks Yunwei!
Paul Church (Nov 30 2020 at 20:04):
what's the meeting link for fhir-I? The one on confluence doesn't seem to be right
Eric Haas (Nov 30 2020 at 20:06):
this is what I have:
https://hl7-org.zoom.us/j/8583747934?pwd=VnZiWFZsNm1TSk5QWmZlbVJyQVZGdz09
Vassil Peytchev (Nov 30 2020 at 20:06):
The link I have, https://hl7-org.zoom.us/j/8583747934?pwd=VnZiWFZsNm1TSk5QWmZlbVJyQVZGdz09 also shows meeting not started...
Paul Church (Nov 30 2020 at 20:07):
ah, never mind - it's started now
Gino Canessa (Nov 30 2020 at 20:07):
Looks open now, Rick said it'll be getting started in a couple of minutes
Gino Canessa (Nov 30 2020 at 20:25):
Per discussion, current view of Backport is available here: https://ginocanessa.github.io/Backport-IG-View/ .
I am currently working on the Conformance section (creating CapabilityStatements and adding documentation), as well as filling out the Workflow section. Thanks!
Carl Anderson (Dec 01 2020 at 17:07):
I'm working through ballot comments for the SMART Web Messaging IG. For next week's call I'd like to add this issue to the agenda:
https://jira.hl7.org/browse/FHIR-29335
FYI: @Bas van den Heuvel
Vassil Peytchev (Dec 01 2020 at 17:43):
@Yunwei Wang - Note that @Camila Altman would like to discuss FHIR#29701
Bas van den Heuvel (Dec 01 2020 at 17:55):
Sure, which next weeks call are you referring to? The one on Monday?
Camila Altman (Dec 01 2020 at 17:56):
monday dec 7th 3 est :)
Gino Canessa (Dec 01 2020 at 22:59):
Gino Canessa said:
Per discussion, current view of Backport is available here: <removed> .
I am currently working on the Conformance section (creating CapabilityStatements and adding documentation), as well as filling out the Workflow section. Thanks!
Note, builds are working again! Current version is at: http://build.fhir.org/ig/HL7/fhir-subscription-backport-ig/ . I'm removing the temp repo to avoid confusion. Thanks!
Carl Anderson (Dec 08 2020 at 22:04):
Following up from yesterday's call - I've put together a sign-up form for future SMART Web Messaging ballot triage calls. Please sign up in you're interested in attending so I can pick a good time to meet.
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/179EGYzc3PBfYMPDJarF2078rIlGbX7S8VuzN4WaRINE/edit?usp=sharing
Carl Anderson (Dec 10 2020 at 18:04):
Err, I meant to send a link to fill out the form, not edit it. Ignore the link above - this is the one you want: https://forms.gle/g2kWwjBCR1sbfmjdA
Carl Anderson (Jan 06 2021 at 16:53):
I meant to post this here Monday after mentioning it in the meeting, but I forgot. There will be a meeting Friday from 10:00 AM CST - 12:30 to discuss some of the SMART Web Messaging ballot comments raised by @Matt Varghese at Epic. @Josh Mandel will be present, and anyone else is welcome to participate.
Josh Mandel (Jan 06 2021 at 17:18):
@Carl Anderson are we limiting the agenda to just items that Matt raised, or will we tackle other ballot items too?
Carl Anderson (Jan 06 2021 at 17:19):
We'll start out with Matt's issues, and then proceed if we have time and interest to keep going.
Carl Anderson (Jan 06 2021 at 17:20):
This will be the first of such meetings, so I'm not 100% sure what to expect yet.
Paul Church (Jan 06 2021 at 17:20):
I can't seem to access the jira filter linked in the email, what are these issues?
Carl Anderson (Jan 06 2021 at 17:22):
image.png @Paul Church - I'm assuming you're a trusted hl7 user. :-)
Carl Anderson (Jan 06 2021 at 17:23):
Anyway, these are issues raised by the Sep-2020 ballot comments for the SMART Web Messaging IG
Josh Mandel (Jan 06 2021 at 17:23):
Also to be clear, the email describes a "triage call", but the goal is actually to discuss/resolve issues, right? Not just to triage them?
Josh Mandel (Jan 06 2021 at 17:23):
Re: viewers, is it possible to just set these for public view, or whatever we use for the FHIR-I conference call filter?
Josh Mandel (Jan 06 2021 at 17:24):
Paul Church (Jan 06 2021 at 17:27):
I'm not in that group, just the default jira groups. How does one become a trusted HL7 user?
Carl Anderson (Jan 06 2021 at 17:29):
Yes, @Josh Mandel although I didn't know that triage calls had a different meaning. Aside: would triage be to determine the priority / severity of a collection of issues?
@Paul Church - I see that my visibility options are hl7-trusted-users, jira-core-users, and jira-software-users. I'm not sure which of the two others is more appropriate. @Lloyd McKenzie ?
Josh Mandel (Jan 06 2021 at 17:30):
You want "anyone on the web".
Josh Mandel (Jan 06 2021 at 17:30):
(It's a choice in the drop-down that says "Group" in your screenshot.)
Carl Anderson (Jan 06 2021 at 18:07):
@Paul Church - sorry for the hold-up, I've opened the filter to anyone on the "web".
Paul Church (Jan 06 2021 at 19:01):
Thanks, got it.
Carl Anderson (Jan 21 2021 at 21:42):
Just for extra visibility - I've sent an email invitation for tomorrow's SMART Web Messaging special session (10:00 AM Central - 11:30), but I thought I would mention it here, too. The call has also made it to HL7's concall page, here: http://hl7.org/concalls/CallDetails.aspx?concall=52799
Hope to see you all there!
Josh Mandel (Jun 14 2021 at 19:00):
@FHIR-I Co-chairs apologies, I won't be able to make today's call.
Josh Mandel (Aug 09 2021 at 18:39):
As I mentioned last week: would love to use hour 2 (i.e., 4-5p ET) of toady's FHIR-I call to continue through SMART on FHIR Ballot issues.
Yunwei Wang (Aug 09 2021 at 19:01):
I will not be able to attend the 2nd hour call today.
Carl Anderson (Aug 30 2021 at 17:58):
I was hoping to address these two issues on today's call:
- https://jira.hl7.org/browse/FHIR-31519 - adding
scratchpad.readto SMART Web Messaging - https://jira.hl7.org/browse/FHIR-29354 - resolution conflists with FHIR-29335
Yunwei Wang (Aug 30 2021 at 18:23):
sure
Josh Mandel (Aug 30 2021 at 18:47):
Re: FHIR-31519 -- this has already been voted on (3/12/2021). Is there something new to vote on, or just an update to share with the group about how this landed?
Josh Mandel (Sep 13 2021 at 20:09):
Sorry to disappear there towards the end; I had to take an unexpected call.
Yunwei Wang (Nov 15 2021 at 19:15):
Due to the conflicts of meeting schedule. @FHIR-I Co-chairs decided to cancel today's weekly conference call. Sorry for the late notification.
Gino Canessa (Nov 29 2021 at 15:53):
Happy Monday! Could I please add FHIR-34314 to today's agenda? Thanks!
John Moehrke (Nov 29 2021 at 20:04):
I would like FHIR-I or MnM guidance on https://jira.hl7.org/browse/FHIR-33170 -- sub elements are marked with _summary, but the parent element is not marked _summary. Either this is proper, or not? If not, then should the tooling (FHIR core build) throw warnings?
Josh Mandel (Nov 29 2021 at 22:01):
Hi @John Moehrke -- looks like we missed this request on today's meeting. Yunwei Wang will you track this for next week's agenda?
Lloyd McKenzie (Nov 29 2021 at 23:08):
We did take it up - second one we covered. John expressed he was happy because the tooling was going to do his work for him :)
Josh Mandel (Nov 29 2021 at 23:12):
Never mind me :smile:
John Moehrke (Nov 29 2021 at 23:25):
You excelled... not only solved it, but automated the problem off my, and others, hands
John Moehrke (Nov 29 2021 at 23:26):
Now, do the same for MS! I have less hope for that one.
Vassil Peytchev (Jan 03 2022 at 19:13):
I think the HL7 calendar may have gotten the calls today mixed up, as it shows the Workflow call as happening, and the FHIR-I call as cancelled. Is it supposed to be the inverse, or are both calls cancelled?
Lloyd McKenzie (Jan 03 2022 at 19:15):
Workflow is supposed to be cancelled. I forget what was decided for FHIR-I.
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