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view this post on Zulip Github Notifications (FHIRcast) (Apr 30 2019 at 19:52):

hl7-fhircast-bot opened Issue #156

## May 2019 Ballot Comment: Is the switch events needed?

Submitted by Ricardo Quintano Neira on behalf of @bvdh
Chapter/section: Event Catalog
Url: https://fhircast.hl7.org/specification/May2019Ballot/index.html
Type: NEG :exclamation: Enhancement

Summary: Is the switch events needed?

Comment: Issue/comment imported from https://github.com/HL7/fhircast-docs/issues/71

"From an EMR/UI perspective, open, switch and close patient are understandable. From an application subscribed to FHIRCast events the difference between open and switch is small.

On open, the new patient/study will be the main one.
On switch, the existing patient/study will be the main one.
On close, the patient/study is no longer relevant.

Switch has the same connotation as open without a close of the current patient, forcing the application to listen to switch as well as open. The action it would take would be the same.
From that point of view I wonder what the additional value of switch is and suggest to remove patient-switch and study-switch."


_This issue was imported by @hl7-fhircast-bot from the consolidated FHIRcast May 2019 ballot spreadsheet._

view this post on Zulip Github Notifications (FHIRcast) (Apr 30 2019 at 19:52):

hl7-fhircast-bot labeled Issue #156

## May 2019 Ballot Comment: Is the switch events needed?

Submitted by Ricardo Quintano Neira on behalf of @bvdh
Chapter/section: Event Catalog
Url: https://fhircast.hl7.org/specification/May2019Ballot/index.html
Type: NEG :exclamation: Enhancement

Summary: Is the switch events needed?

Comment: Issue/comment imported from https://github.com/HL7/fhircast-docs/issues/71

"From an EMR/UI perspective, open, switch and close patient are understandable. From an application subscribed to FHIRCast events the difference between open and switch is small.

On open, the new patient/study will be the main one.
On switch, the existing patient/study will be the main one.
On close, the patient/study is no longer relevant.

Switch has the same connotation as open without a close of the current patient, forcing the application to listen to switch as well as open. The action it would take would be the same.
From that point of view I wonder what the additional value of switch is and suggest to remove patient-switch and study-switch."


_This issue was imported by @hl7-fhircast-bot from the consolidated FHIRcast May 2019 ballot spreadsheet._

view this post on Zulip Github Notifications (FHIRcast) (Apr 30 2019 at 19:52):

hl7-fhircast-bot labeled Issue #156

## May 2019 Ballot Comment: Is the switch events needed?

Submitted by Ricardo Quintano Neira on behalf of @bvdh
Chapter/section: Event Catalog
Url: https://fhircast.hl7.org/specification/May2019Ballot/index.html
Type: NEG :exclamation: Enhancement

Summary: Is the switch events needed?

Comment: Issue/comment imported from https://github.com/HL7/fhircast-docs/issues/71

"From an EMR/UI perspective, open, switch and close patient are understandable. From an application subscribed to FHIRCast events the difference between open and switch is small.

On open, the new patient/study will be the main one.
On switch, the existing patient/study will be the main one.
On close, the patient/study is no longer relevant.

Switch has the same connotation as open without a close of the current patient, forcing the application to listen to switch as well as open. The action it would take would be the same.
From that point of view I wonder what the additional value of switch is and suggest to remove patient-switch and study-switch."


_This issue was imported by @hl7-fhircast-bot from the consolidated FHIRcast May 2019 ballot spreadsheet._

view this post on Zulip Github Notifications (FHIRcast) (Apr 30 2019 at 19:52):

hl7-fhircast-bot edited Issue #156

## May 2019 Ballot Comment: Is the switch events needed?

Submitted by Ricardo Quintano Neira on behalf of @bvdh
Chapter/section: Event Catalog
Url: https://fhircast.hl7.org/specification/May2019Ballot/index.html
Type: NEG :exclamation: Enhancement

Summary: Is the switch events needed?

Comment: Issue/comment imported from https://github.com/HL7/fhircast-docs/issues/71

"From an EMR/UI perspective, open, switch and close patient are understandable. From an application subscribed to FHIRCast events the difference between open and switch is small.

On open, the new patient/study will be the main one.
On switch, the existing patient/study will be the main one.
On close, the patient/study is no longer relevant.

Switch has the same connotation as open without a close of the current patient, forcing the application to listen to switch as well as open. The action it would take would be the same.
From that point of view I wonder what the additional value of switch is and suggest to remove patient-switch and study-switch."


_This issue was imported by @hl7-fhircast-bot from the consolidated FHIRcast May 2019 ballot spreadsheet._

view this post on Zulip Github Notifications (FHIRcast) (Apr 30 2019 at 21:11):

isaacvetter labeled Issue #156

## May 2019 Ballot Comment: Is the switch events needed?

Submitted by Ricardo Quintano Neira on behalf of @bvdh
Chapter/section: Event Catalog
Url: https://fhircast.hl7.org/specification/May2019Ballot/index.html
Type: NEG :exclamation: Enhancement

Summary: Is the switch events needed?

Comment: Issue/comment imported from https://github.com/HL7/fhircast-docs/issues/71

"From an EMR/UI perspective, open, switch and close patient are understandable. From an application subscribed to FHIRCast events the difference between open and switch is small.

On open, the new patient/study will be the main one.
On switch, the existing patient/study will be the main one.
On close, the patient/study is no longer relevant.

Switch has the same connotation as open without a close of the current patient, forcing the application to listen to switch as well as open. The action it would take would be the same.
From that point of view I wonder what the additional value of switch is and suggest to remove patient-switch and study-switch."


_This issue was imported by @hl7-fhircast-bot from the consolidated FHIRcast May 2019 ballot spreadsheet._

view this post on Zulip Github Notifications (FHIRcast) (May 06 2019 at 21:21):

isaacvetter commented on Issue #156

Proposed resolution: Persuasive with Mod

We will remove

view this post on Zulip Github Notifications (FHIRcast) (May 06 2019 at 21:30):

isaacvetter edited a comment on Issue #156

In conversation with @NiklasSvenzen , @wmaethner, @RicardoQuintano, we decided to make a more structural change to enable community-submitted events and to allow events to mature independently of the base spec.

Proposed resolution: Persuasive with Mod

We will remove the switch events, but also move the Event Catalog out of the base FHIRcast specification. We will also define a documentation template and process to mature a given hook or set of hooks. (For inspiration, we'll look at the FHIR Maturity Model and CDS Hooks Maturity Model).

view this post on Zulip Github Notifications (FHIRcast) (May 08 2019 at 14:29):

isaacvetter commented on Issue #156

Proposed resolution: Persuasive with Mod

We will remove the switch events, but also move the Event Catalog out of the base FHIRcast specification. We will also define a documentation template and process and syntax to define and mature a given event or set of events considering how FHIR resources should be naturally included within event syntax.

Mover: Ioana, Niklas
Affirmative/Abstention/Negative: 14-0-0

view this post on Zulip Github Notifications (FHIRcast) (May 08 2019 at 14:29):

NiklasSvenzen labeled Issue #156

## May 2019 Ballot Comment: Is the switch events needed?

Submitted by Ricardo Quintano Neira on behalf of @bvdh
Chapter/section: Event Catalog
Url: https://fhircast.hl7.org/specification/May2019Ballot/index.html
Type: NEG :exclamation: Enhancement

Summary: Is the switch events needed?

Comment: Issue/comment imported from https://github.com/HL7/fhircast-docs/issues/71

"From an EMR/UI perspective, open, switch and close patient are understandable. From an application subscribed to FHIRCast events the difference between open and switch is small.

On open, the new patient/study will be the main one.
On switch, the existing patient/study will be the main one.
On close, the patient/study is no longer relevant.

Switch has the same connotation as open without a close of the current patient, forcing the application to listen to switch as well as open. The action it would take would be the same.
From that point of view I wonder what the additional value of switch is and suggest to remove patient-switch and study-switch."


_This issue was imported by @hl7-fhircast-bot from the consolidated FHIRcast May 2019 ballot spreadsheet._

view this post on Zulip Github Notifications (FHIRcast) (May 08 2019 at 15:44):

isaacvetter edited a comment on Issue #156

## Montreal May 2019 Working Group Vote

@IoanaSingureanu moved the following disposition, seconded by @NiklasSvenzen

Disposition: Persuasive with Mod
Disposition Comment: We will remove the switch events, but also move the Event Catalog out of the base FHIRcast specification. We will also define a documentation template and process and syntax to define and mature a given event or set of events considering how FHIR resources should be naturally included within event syntax.

:+1: For: 14
:expressionless: Abstain: 0 
:-1: Against: 0

:tada: The motion passed! :tada:

view this post on Zulip Github Notifications (FHIRcast) (Sep 11 2019 at 20:43):

wmaethner closed Issue #156:

May 2019 Ballot Comment: Is the switch events needed?

Submitted by Ricardo Quintano Neira on behalf of @bvdh
Chapter/section: Event Catalog
Url: https://fhircast.hl7.org/specification/May2019Ballot/index.html
Type: NEG :exclamation: Enhancement

Summary: Is the switch events needed?

Comment: Issue/comment imported from https://github.com/HL7/fhircast-docs/issues/71

"From an EMR/UI perspective, open, switch and close patient are understandable. From an application subscribed to FHIRCast events the difference between open and switch is small.

On open, the new patient/study will be the main one.
On switch, the existing patient/study will be the main one.
On close, the patient/study is no longer relevant.

Switch has the same connotation as open without a close of the current patient, forcing the application to listen to switch as well as open. The action it would take would be the same.
From that point of view I wonder what the additional value of switch is and suggest to remove patient-switch and study-switch."


_This issue was imported by @hl7-fhircast-bot from the consolidated FHIRcast May 2019 ballot spreadsheet._


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