Stream: fhir-messages
Topic: hello
Welcome Bot (Apr 03 2018 at 23:04):
Welcome to #fhir-messages.
Description: http://build.fhir.org/messaging.html
Nick Hatt (Apr 03 2018 at 23:05):
I'll see if anybody finds this channel @Benjamin Flessner
Nick Hatt (Apr 11 2018 at 15:42):
If anybody is interested in testing messaging with Redox, react to this post, respond, or e-mail me.
René Spronk (Apr 12 2018 at 05:21):
Not knowing Redox: where's the spec / the profile of those messages ?
Nick Hatt (Apr 12 2018 at 15:26):
@René Spronk agreed - probably 95% of healthcare data moves via messages. Glad other people are interested in this too. I'll watch your talk this afternoon.
We started out creating our own models - informed by HL7v2, FHIR, and various vendor-specific APIs. https://developer.redoxengine.com/data-models/
Now we're looking to convert some of those to FHIR gradually - part of the reason I wanted to create this channel was to figure out how to profile some of these things.
For example, MessageHeader and Composition both say that the first entry in the bundle should be the respective resource.
I'm curious if you're seen anyone attempt to profile Bundle such that it could be used in messaging? Like a profile for a Bundle that represents an ADT^A01 message.
Lloyd McKenzie (Apr 12 2018 at 17:00):
I've created profiles for a variety of message bundles, but they've always been specific to a particular closed environment. One of the challenges with FHIR is just because something was done with messaging in v2 doesn't mean that there's a use-case to do it with messaging in FHIR. Messaging imposes an overhead that's not necessarily required for a lot of healthcare transactions and it opens up new ways of systems getting access to relevant information. So far there hasn't been a whole lot of interest in trying to port the v2 message events and message definitions across to the FHIR spec. That doesn't mean it couldn't be done.
Nick Hatt (Apr 12 2018 at 17:38):
@Lloyd McKenzie are the profiles somewhere you can share? Mostly just looking for a starting point. I'm somewhat green with StructureDefinition overall. For example, is there a way to explicitly specify that MessageHeader should be the first entry in message Bundle?
Lloyd McKenzie (Apr 12 2018 at 18:44):
Despite urging, the client has not yet hosted the technical artifacts in a place that's accessible to the general public. I'll see if I can get permission to share them privately.
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