Stream: patient empowerment
Topic: Reporting chart errors: JAMIA study
Dave deBronkart (Oct 18 2019 at 17:29):
Could be useful as we think about our supposed #1 use case to get the public involved. I haven't studied this yet, but here ... https://academic.oup.com/jamia/advance-article-abstract/doi/10.1093/jamia/ocz142/5559299?redirectedFrom=fulltext
Debi Willis (Oct 18 2019 at 17:43):
This is great Dave! I loved this quote "About one-quarter of patients and families using an online reporting system identified potential documentation inaccuracies in visit notes and more than half were considered important by patients and clinicians, underscoring the potential role of patients and families as ambulatory safety partners." I would love providers to see the benefit of patients as "safety partners".
Lloyd McKenzie (Oct 18 2019 at 19:17):
Some of the resistance to sharing data likely stems from the belief that doing so will open providers up to increased liability. Framing it as a way to reduce liability by correcting errors before they have a chance to cause harm may help reduce resistance.
Dave deBronkart (Oct 19 2019 at 00:07):
This is a good point, Lloyd, but one that has generally not gotten much traction ... it's worth citing, but many executives have shown over and over that they'd rather ignore a subject than be a brave preventer of POSSIBLE risks, while maybe risking an ACTUAL embarrassment.
But I'm not opposed to anything that works!
Dave deBronkart (Oct 19 2019 at 00:10):
@Debi Willis @Virginia Lorenzi @Mikael Rinnetmäki In our nascent workgroup I'm willing to be something of a curator of a collection of such things, which I presume should live on Confluence, but I need to get bootstrapped.
Lloyd McKenzie (Oct 19 2019 at 10:11):
I believe you now have an id and know where the PE area is. What else would help get you to the "armed and dangerous" stage @Dave deBronkart?
Dave deBronkart (Oct 19 2019 at 12:00):
Yes I'm in, but every time I go there people seem to agree that it takes some getting used to. So. Learning the confluence ropes, and in parallel, learning how HL7 people run a project.
Lloyd McKenzie (Oct 19 2019 at 14:51):
The answer to the latter is "it varies widely" :)
Dave deBronkart (Oct 19 2019 at 22:55):
All the more reason for me to have a savvy template to follow. Efficiency will be important to me as I endeavor not to sink my own ship with this work. (Cynics are so eager for any evidence that a cause is unsustainable.)
Lloyd McKenzie (Oct 20 2019 at 01:18):
My typical approach is just get something out there and refactor it later if need be (or let someone else do so if they want to). It's easy enough to move and rename and edit things in Confluence.
Dave deBronkart (Oct 20 2019 at 01:45):
Well, good ... it's quite something to dive into this organization ... discovering that in many aspects there's no particular right way to do things, but then other items get gold medals :slight_smile:
@Debi Willis , @Virginia Lorenzi , you both offered to show me the ropes - Sunday is good for me, then I hit the road intensely until Thursday, then gone again Saturday... first come first served. Let's roll - I'm already forgetting what I wanted to study, above. (Just kidding, sorta)
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