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Stream: Orders and Observation WG

Topic: Observation comments


view this post on Zulip Jose Costa Teixeira (Dec 22 2021 at 13:31):

Is there any guidance on adding to the Observation categorized notes such as

  • [tech note]: this exam is not covered by accreditation
  • [clinical note]: this exam may be affected by medications...
    (sorry for poor examples - but I hope the idea is clear)

view this post on Zulip Jose Costa Teixeira (Jan 11 2022 at 16:21):

@Rob Hausam @Ralf Herzog

view this post on Zulip Jose Costa Teixeira (Jan 11 2022 at 16:21):

(not sure whom to ask)

view this post on Zulip Jose Costa Teixeira (Jan 11 2022 at 16:22):

I want to add an extension(?) that provides categorized notes - i.e. a note(text?) with a coded type

view this post on Zulip Jose Costa Teixeira (Jan 11 2022 at 16:22):

wondering if this has already been seen somewhere

view this post on Zulip Kevin Power (Jan 11 2022 at 16:31):

@Jose Costa Teixeira - #genomics is working on something just like this in our IG. I or @Patrick Werner can provide more details soon

view this post on Zulip Jose Costa Teixeira (Jan 11 2022 at 16:33):

thanks @Kevin Power

view this post on Zulip Jose Costa Teixeira (Jan 11 2022 at 16:34):

do you know where the genomics IG is?

view this post on Zulip Kevin Power (Jan 11 2022 at 16:34):

We have a branch with our proposal - http://build.fhir.org/ig/HL7/genomics-reporting/branches/pw-codedNotes/StructureDefinition-coded-annotation.html

view this post on Zulip Kevin Power (Jan 11 2022 at 16:35):

Hopefully you can start there. (Sorry but I am out and about and am only on my phone)

view this post on Zulip Patrick Werner (Jan 11 2022 at 16:38):

Hi @Jose Costa Teixeira yes i created an extension for this purpose (the one Kevin linked)

view this post on Zulip Jose Costa Teixeira (Jan 11 2022 at 16:38):

Nice, so you extend the data type

view this post on Zulip Patrick Werner (Jan 11 2022 at 16:38):

yes

view this post on Zulip Jose Costa Teixeira (Jan 11 2022 at 16:39):

i'm not sure if I should use it just because it's not yet official.. otherwise I make my own

view this post on Zulip Patrick Werner (Jan 11 2022 at 16:39):

we then just changed the target profile of DR.note

view this post on Zulip Patrick Werner (Jan 11 2022 at 16:40):

Jose Costa Teixeira said:

i'm not sure if I should use it just because it's not yet official.. otherwise I make my own

understandable. I wish this was part of the core spec (even as extension)

view this post on Zulip Patrick Werner (Jan 11 2022 at 16:40):

created a Jira Ticket about it in R3: https://jira.hl7.org/browse/FHIR-22102?jql=project%3D%22FHIR%22%20AND%20text~%22coded%20annotation%22

view this post on Zulip Patrick Werner (Jan 11 2022 at 16:41):

vote was on a later duplicate: https://jira.hl7.org/browse/FHIR-29705
(non persuasive)

view this post on Zulip Patrick Werner (Jan 11 2022 at 16:44):

@Grahame Grieve @Lloyd McKenzie
i can understand your points in the resolution. But now different people are starting to create similar Extensions to solve this problem.

view this post on Zulip Patrick Werner (Jan 11 2022 at 16:45):

Maybe at least a core extension would be an option to prevent wild extension growth.

view this post on Zulip Jose Costa Teixeira (Jan 11 2022 at 16:46):

actually I think my need is somewhere on Observation, but the requirement seems the same

view this post on Zulip Patrick Werner (Jan 11 2022 at 17:03):

you are right. We needed it on both.

view this post on Zulip Jose Costa Teixeira (Jan 12 2022 at 12:05):

so we're looking at a "TypedAnnotation" data type, that contains that extension?

view this post on Zulip Kevin Power (Jan 12 2022 at 13:46):

We called it "CodedAnnotation", but yes.

view this post on Zulip Rob Hausam (Jan 27 2022 at 18:34):

@Jose Costa Teixeira I'm coming to this late. Has this answered your original question?

view this post on Zulip Jose Costa Teixeira (Jan 27 2022 at 18:51):

Yes

view this post on Zulip Jose Costa Teixeira (Jan 27 2022 at 18:54):

I do think it should be a standard extension

view this post on Zulip John Moehrke (Jan 27 2022 at 18:56):

I would prefer they be a Resource that points at the Observation it is commenting on.

view this post on Zulip Jose Costa Teixeira (Jan 27 2022 at 19:32):

@John Moehrke wrong thread? This is about mapping NTE-4 by adding an annotation type to Annotation


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