Stream: patient administration WG
Topic: Gender
Grahame Grieve (Jul 25 2018 at 02:33):
Given PA's writings on Gender:
in order to interoperate with systems that use a single generic property, the basic Patient.gender property attempts to represent an administrative gender: the gender that the patient is considered to have for administration and record keeping purposes.
Grahame Grieve (Jul 25 2018 at 02:33):
1. can we remove the word 'attempt' please
2. does PA have a view on whether FamilyMemberHistory should use administrative gender?
Brian Postlethwaite (Jul 25 2018 at 02:56):
Will add these to the PA agenda this week.
Grahame Grieve (Jul 25 2018 at 02:56):
thx
Brian Postlethwaite (Jul 25 2018 at 02:57):
(And will create a tracker for the wording change)
Brian Postlethwaite (Jul 25 2018 at 13:19):
PA Conference call at 3pm Eastern Wed 25th July
Michelle (Moseman) Miller (Jul 26 2018 at 22:32):
PC discussed changing FamilyMemberHistory.gender to be birth sex per https://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=17561
Richard Townley-O'Neill (Jul 26 2018 at 23:59):
Putting birth sex in an element called gender looks like a recepie for future confusion.
Michelle (Moseman) Miller (Jul 27 2018 at 13:53):
Anything dealing with gender / sex is a recipe for confusion (given the volume of gender-related trackers that PA has had). Point taken, though. I can add this topic to the PC agenda next week to see if we should also rename the element given the other changes we just approved.
Cooper Thompson (Aug 01 2018 at 14:26):
I created GF#17586 for the "attempts" wording change.
Michelle (Moseman) Miller (Aug 03 2018 at 01:08):
@Richard Townley-O'Neill To close the loop on this, Patient Care decided against renaming gender to birthSex, but we did add a comment as Lloyd suggested saying
This element should ideally reflect whether the individual is genetically masculine or feminine. However, as reported information based on the knowledge of the patient or reporting friend/relative, there may be situations where the reported gender might not be totally accurate. E.g. 'Aunt Sue' might be XY rather than XX. Questions soliciting this information should be phrased to encourage capture of genetic gender where known. However, systems performing analysis should also allow for the possibility of imprecision with this element
Richard Townley-O'Neill (Aug 03 2018 at 02:38):
Ahh. The social aspects of medicine are very important.
Thanks Michelle.
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