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Topic: NDC display names


view this post on Zulip Eric Haas (Nov 16 2021 at 16:03):

@Rob Hausam I got this warning for the NDC display name:

The display "FLUZONE High-Dose Quadrivalent Northern Hemisphere" is not a valid display for the code {http://hl7.org/fhir/sid/ndc}49281012165 - should be one of ['FLUZONE High-Dose Quadrivalent Northern Hemisphere, 10 SYRINGE, GLASS in 1 PACKAGE (49281-121-65) > .7 mL in 1 SYRINGE, GLASS (49281-121-88) (package)'] (from http://tx.fhir.org/r4) for 'http://hl7.org/fhir/sid/ndc#49281012165'

when I look at CDC website and the FDA NDC lookup I get the former and not the latter which although thorough and precise seem a bit cumbersome for a display name. Is that the official display name per NDC or the definition?

view this post on Zulip Eric Haas (Nov 16 2021 at 16:06):

@Grahame Grieve when I corrected the error above I get the following warning:

The display "FLUZONE High-Dose Quadrivalent Northern Hemisphere, 10 SYRINGE, GLASS in 1 PACKAGE (49281-121-65) > .7 mL in 1 SYRINGE, GLASS (49281-121-88) (package)" is not a valid display for the code {http://hl7.org/fhir/sid/ndc}49281012165 - should be one of ['FLUZONE High-Dose Quadrivalent Northern Hemisphere, 10 SYRINGE, GLASS in 1 PACKAGE (49281-121-65) > .7 mL in 1 SYRINGE, GLASS (49281-121-88) (package)'] (from http://tx.fhir.org/r4) for 'http://hl7.org/fhir/sid/ndc#49281012165'

I assume this is bug since -to me- they are the same?

view this post on Zulip Grahame Grieve (Nov 16 2021 at 18:40):

they do look pretty similar, yes. how do I reproduce that?

view this post on Zulip Rob Hausam (Nov 16 2021 at 19:26):

We need to look again at the description(s) that we're picking up from the NDC distribution.

view this post on Zulip Grahame Grieve (Nov 16 2021 at 19:32):

well, it's odd - that's a package code.

view this post on Zulip Grahame Grieve (Nov 16 2021 at 19:32):

the package description is

view this post on Zulip Grahame Grieve (Nov 16 2021 at 19:32):

10 SYRINGE, GLASS in 1 PACKAGE (49281-121-65) > .7 mL in 1 SYRINGE, GLASS (49281-121-88)

view this post on Zulip Grahame Grieve (Nov 16 2021 at 19:33):

the product is

view this post on Zulip Grahame Grieve (Nov 16 2021 at 19:33):

49281-121

view this post on Zulip Grahame Grieve (Nov 16 2021 at 19:33):

for which the display is

view this post on Zulip Grahame Grieve (Nov 16 2021 at 19:33):

FLUZONE High-Dose Quadrivalent Northern Hemisphere

view this post on Zulip Grahame Grieve (Nov 16 2021 at 19:34):

is it OK to use the product display for the package code is it? Surely not? Multiple NDC package codes can't be differentiated?

view this post on Zulip Eric Haas (Nov 17 2021 at 01:45):

here is the source of the example:

resourceType: Immunization
id: imm-1
meta:
  profile:
    - 'http://hl7.org/fhir/us/core/StructureDefinition/us-core-immunization'
  extension:
    - url: 'http://hl7.org/fhir/StructureDefinition/instance-name'
      valueString: Imm 1 Example
    - url: 'http://hl7.org/fhir/StructureDefinition/instance-description'
      valueMarkdown: This is a imm 1 example for the *US Core Immunization Profile*.
status: completed
vaccineCode:
  coding:
    - system: 'http://hl7.org/fhir/sid/cvx'
      code: '197'
      display: 'influenza, high-dose, quadrivalent'
# =========== NDC Coding that causes the warning ==========
    - system: 'http://hl7.org/fhir/sid/ndc'
      code: '49281012165'
      display: FLUZONE High-Dose Quadrivalent Northern Hemisphere  # get warning no matter what !
# =========== NDC Coding that causes the warning ==========
  text: 'influenza, high-dose, quadrivalent'
patient:
  reference: Patient/example
  display: Amy Shaw
occurrenceDateTime: '2020-11-19T12:46:57-08:00'
primarySource: false

view this post on Zulip Eric Haas (Nov 17 2021 at 01:47):

if you want I can create a test build...

view this post on Zulip Grahame Grieve (Nov 17 2021 at 02:04):

not necessary in this case

view this post on Zulip Vassil Peytchev (Nov 17 2021 at 02:11):

No quotes around the display value?

view this post on Zulip Grahame Grieve (Nov 18 2021 at 00:49):

I can't reproduce this - is it a caching issue?

view this post on Zulip Grahame Grieve (Nov 18 2021 at 00:50):

At least, that you can't get the display correct. The underlying issue about display names hasn't been answered by someone who knows NDC. I'll try #Medication


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