Stream: IG creation
Topic: Logical Model page layout
Jose Costa Teixeira (Apr 17 2020 at 16:22):
How would a Logical Model page look like in an IG?
Jose Costa Teixeira (Apr 17 2020 at 16:23):
- should it show directly the model (differential) instead of the Text summary ?
Jose Costa Teixeira (Apr 17 2020 at 16:24):
- I supposed Detailed Descriptions and Mappings would remain..?
Jose Costa Teixeira (Apr 17 2020 at 16:25):
- I guess the header instead of being "StructureDefinition: ..." could be "Logical Model: " (or "Logical Data Model:") ?
Lloyd McKenzie (Apr 17 2020 at 17:05):
- Text summary could still be relevant. We're probably going to change where it appears in the tab order for everything. (And make it more useful)
- y
- Logical Model is the term we use in the spec, so keeping consistent would be good
Giorgio Cangioli (Apr 18 2020 at 16:13):
Jose Costa Teixeira said:
- I supposed Detailed Descriptions and Mappings would remain..?
I hope so .. :-)
Jose Costa Teixeira (Apr 18 2020 at 17:48):
Any other ideas for things that should be different?
(Besides the "examples" section for which there is a separate discussion)
Frank Oemig (Apr 19 2020 at 10:55):
@Jose Costa Teixeira do you have a sample IG? This is something we gave to work on for v2+ but I would like to benefit from existing work and thoughts...
Jose Costa Teixeira (Apr 19 2020 at 11:48):
@Frank Oemig you mean sample logical models? There are a few.
If you mean "sample new rendering of Logical Model" then no, but that may be a good idea to put in the guidance IG.
Jose Costa Teixeira (Apr 19 2020 at 11:50):
We don't have the new rendering yet because work is just starting (hence collecting ideas).
Jose Costa Teixeira (Apr 19 2020 at 11:50):
I can try to make a PR soon to the base template so that Lloyd can merge it.
Frank Oemig (Apr 19 2020 at 16:55):
IGpublisher can do a lot. So it would be good to have a max sample IG that demonstrates the different features.
David Hay (Apr 19 2020 at 20:49):
Not sure if it's useful - but here's one I'm working on - http://igs.clinfhir.com/healthalliance/StructureDefinition-HaPatient.html
Would like to lose from the snapshot:
- meta info (id, meta, implicit rules, language)
- extensions, contained
- slice definition
Not sure if the differential tab adds value
(I am using clinFHIR to create the models as a precursor too creating the profiles - so may well be introducing oddities from there.)
Not sure what I'd add - I've just started using LMs in the IG...
Jose Costa Teixeira (Apr 19 2020 at 20:58):
@David Hay do you mean this
http://igs.clinfhir.com/healthalliance/StructureDefinition-HaPatientLM.html
instead?
David Hay (Apr 19 2020 at 21:50):
bother! yes...
David Hay (Apr 19 2020 at 21:51):
I should check what I'm doing before I click send! My comments above can be ignored...
Jose Costa Teixeira (Apr 19 2020 at 22:28):
Well, if we make the LM at least say "Logical model" instead of StructureDefinition you will spot it more easily ;) I struggle in my profiles as well
Jose Costa Teixeira (Apr 21 2020 at 13:50):
- Do we want Terminology bindings ?
- and Constraints?
- The Schematron link would go away, right?
Jose Costa Teixeira (Apr 21 2020 at 13:51):
Jose Costa Teixeira (Apr 21 2020 at 13:52):
on 4. I think yes, we must preserve terminology bindings. - So far our practice is : the logical model may contain bindings that are defined at the functional / legal level - for example civil states.
Lloyd McKenzie (Apr 21 2020 at 14:02):
Terminology bindings and constraints are both appropriate in logical models
Lloyd McKenzie (Apr 21 2020 at 14:03):
Schematrons aren't so relevant because you're not supposed to create and share instances. However, that's not 100% true. @Grahame Grieve thoughts?
Grahame Grieve (Apr 21 2020 at 19:50):
that's not true at all. They are not resources but that doesn't mean that they aren't meaningful models
Lloyd McKenzie (Apr 21 2020 at 19:59):
Schematron has nothing to do with whether they're meaningful, it has to do with whether you're producing instances for them.
Grahame Grieve (Apr 21 2020 at 20:02):
well, any of them may have instances
Lloyd McKenzie (Apr 21 2020 at 20:49):
So even though those models are not supposed to be used for exchange purposes, supporting schematron would still be appropriate?
Grahame Grieve (Apr 21 2020 at 20:50):
could be. Depends on whether XML is in scope e.g. CDA
Jose Costa Teixeira (Apr 22 2020 at 08:01):
So, about the layout - if the Logical Model layout header becomes "Logical Model" image.png
Jose Costa Teixeira (Apr 22 2020 at 08:04):
would we also change the Profile layout to be "Profile"?
Jose Costa Teixeira (Apr 22 2020 at 08:04):
Lloyd McKenzie (Apr 22 2020 at 14:00):
Sure
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