Stream: bulk data
Topic: May 2021 Connectathon
Dan Gottlieb (Apr 22 2021 at 14:09):
The May Connectathon is coming up in just under a month! In the Bulk Data track, we'll be testing FHIR bulk data clients and servers, with a focus on the changes in the upcoming STU2 version (previously known as 1.5).
Dan Gottlieb (Apr 22 2021 at 14:09):
If you're planning to participate and bring a server or an open source client, please add or update your entry on the tracking spreadsheet.
Dan Gottlieb (Apr 22 2021 at 14:10):
Our track kickoff is scheduled for Tuesday, May 11th at 3pm EST / 7pm UTC (the kickoffs are happing before the Connectathon starts this time around). It will take place on the Connectathon Whova site, and we're planning to post a recording for folks not able to make it.
Dan Gottlieb (Apr 22 2021 at 14:10):
Also, be sure to register for the Connectathon ASAP - registration closes on April 30th and the early bird rate ends tomorrow.
Dan Gottlieb (May 10 2021 at 15:17):
Reminder - if you'll be bringing a bulk data server or an open source client to the FHIR Connectathon next week, please add the details to the tracking spreadsheet so folks can find it.
Dan Gottlieb (May 10 2021 at 15:19):
Also, our track kickoff call is tomorrow (Tuesday) at 3pm EST( 7PM UTC) on the Whova. We'll cover the track schedule and resources along with a brief overview of the bulk data IG for folks who are new to it.
Dan Gottlieb (May 11 2021 at 19:03):
Kickoff call is starting now on Whova!
Karen Fairchild (May 18 2021 at 00:24):
@Dan Gottlieb Wanted to let you know I will be late for the 10am CET Initial Check-in meeting (along with Jon Dahmer) but we are in for the bulk data track. -- Karen
Dan Gottlieb (May 18 2021 at 12:20):
Sounds good! To be clear, the kickoff today is at 10am ET (2pm UTC, 7am PT).
Dan Gottlieb (May 18 2021 at 16:25):
If you're testing a bulk data serve, https://inferno.healthit.gov/community is back up!
Karen Fairchild (May 18 2021 at 17:57):
@Dan Gottlieb Was wondering if @Jonathan Dahmer and I could jump on the zoom meeting with you to go deeper in the client auth process w/JWTS, etc. Do you have time this afternoon?
Dan Gottlieb (May 18 2021 at 18:01):
Sure - 3pm ET? @Vladimir Ignatov would that work for you as well?
Karen Fairchild (May 18 2021 at 18:02):
Works for us! Thanks!
Vladimir Ignatov (May 18 2021 at 18:03):
Yes, I can join
Dan Gottlieb (May 18 2021 at 18:05):
Great! Also, anyone else in the track inteterested in talking about bulk auth is welcome to join as well :)
Josh Mandel (May 18 2021 at 18:18):
I'll try to join as well (should have 25min free)
Dan Gottlieb (May 19 2021 at 13:57):
Our day 2 check in is taking place now on Whova. If you're participating in the track, please join!
Dan Gottlieb (May 19 2021 at 14:30):
As discussed, please add a sentence or two to the highlighted sections of the track report out describing what you worked on (or are currently working on) at the connectathon: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1D4MoLfkITjLIREn1Os62SxIlW4THbox_aNm7nPt1Ctk/edit
Karen Fairchild (May 19 2021 at 14:37):
@Isaac Vetter @Aaron Beal trying to find out if you have an Epic bulk data that uses security. The server listed in the bulk data May 2021 Connectathon spreadsheet here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12flCQgi9jB76ZRMJZv_bnzirua1wRUOmVVhruF3ObCU/edit#gid=0) appears to be unsecure. We want to run some tests against your server and would like to exercise the auth part of bulk data .
Karen Fairchild (May 19 2021 at 14:46):
@Zameer Sura we are trying to test against your secure R4 Cerner bulk data server listed in the bulk data May 2021 Connectathon spreadsheet here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12flCQgi9jB76ZRMJZv_bnzirua1wRUOmVVhruF3ObCU/edit#gid=0) . We can get tokens but we are not able to get data from https://fhir-ehr.stagingcerner.com/beta/ec2458f2-1e24-41c8-b71b-0e701af7583d/Patient/$export . Getting a 404 error. Is your bulk data server running?
Zameer Sura (May 19 2021 at 15:17):
Karen Fairchild said:
Zameer Sura we are trying to test against your secure R4 Cerner bulk data server listed in the bulk data May 2021 Connectathon spreadsheet here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12flCQgi9jB76ZRMJZv_bnzirua1wRUOmVVhruF3ObCU/edit#gid=0) . We can get tokens but we are not able to get data from https://fhir-ehr.stagingcerner.com/beta/ec2458f2-1e24-41c8-b71b-0e701af7583d/Patient/$export . Getting a 404 error. Is your bulk data server running?
We actually do not have anyone supporting the Bulk Data track for this connectathon but our server is yet running. I was able to run some quick tests and was able to get successful responses.
If you have the X-Request-Id from the request you made, maybe i can take a quick look.
Jonathan Dahmer (May 19 2021 at 20:04):
Zameer Sura said:
Karen Fairchild said:
Zameer Sura we are trying to test against your secure R4 Cerner bulk data server listed in the bulk data May 2021 Connectathon spreadsheet here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12flCQgi9jB76ZRMJZv_bnzirua1wRUOmVVhruF3ObCU/edit#gid=0) . We can get tokens but we are not able to get data from https://fhir-ehr.stagingcerner.com/beta/ec2458f2-1e24-41c8-b71b-0e701af7583d/Patient/$export . Getting a 404 error. Is your bulk data server running?
We actually do not have anyone supporting the Bulk Data track for this connectathon but our server is yet running. I was able to run some quick tests and was able to get successful responses.
If you have the X-Request-Id from the request you made, maybe i can take a quick look.
Hi @Zameer Sura , following up on Karen's initial message, the X-Request-Id for my most recent attempt is 'X-Request-Id': '5ea0f22f-f2d0-4149-ac18-1e8c9d5dce94' when attempting to query the fhir url listed in the Google Doc Bulk Server list. This is after i successfully am able to retrieve a Bearer Token from the Token URL using the keys listed there. The status lists as '404 Not Found'
Scratch the above, i believe i found my issue. i am able to get a 202 response now
Zameer Sura (May 19 2021 at 20:10):
From my logs what i can see is that the request was made to /beta/ec2458f2-1e24-41c8-b71b-0e701af7583d/$export/$export. There is an extra /$export present.
Jonathan Dahmer (May 19 2021 at 20:12):
Zameer Sura said:
From my logs what i can see is that the request was made to
/beta/ec2458f2-1e24-41c8-b71b-0e701af7583d/$export/$export. There is an extra/$exportpresent.
Thanks Zameer, i see my issue now. There were additional pieces of the URL being built dynamically. Thanks!
Karen Fairchild (May 19 2021 at 21:47):
@Zameer Sura One last question -is your Cerner secure R4 bulk data server a production server or is this one just a prototype for your production bulk data FHIR server you will be releasing into production? Trying to understand if you will be adding any of the optional bulk data API search parameters to it.
Zameer Sura (May 19 2021 at 21:53):
This is just an early prototype that returns mocked data. Our production instance is yet under initial development so it is yet a bit early to comment on what all optional parameters it will support.
Michael Turman (May 20 2021 at 13:42):
@Karen Fairchild I am on the Cerner team responsible for our FHIR bulk data server. Which search parameters are you interested in? Understanding your use case if helpful too.
Karen Fairchild (May 26 2021 at 22:19):
@Michael Turman the types of search parameters we are interested in for bulk data are _since, _type and _typeFilter. For example, we would want to pull various recourses since a given data as we build up data incrementally. And wtihin Observation, we only want certain types of observations like lab results and vitals. Is Cerner bulk data supporting those?
Michael Turman (May 27 2021 at 15:57):
Thanks for the response, Karen. This helps inform the priority we give to search params.
I expect Cerner's bulk server to support those params over time - maybe not with the first turn of the crank.
Last updated: Apr 12 2022 at 19:14 UTC
