Stream: Medication
Topic: IDMP on FHIR course
René Spronk (Sep 01 2020 at 07:00):
Your review is requested: Firely's latest training course is a "IDMP on FHIR" course for those new to IDMP as well as FHIR.
As domain experts I value your personal opinion (good or bad, as long as it is done constructively) with regards to the proposed agenda, as well as the training goals. Given that the EMA has officially stated their position with regards to FHIR, this version of the course is primarily aimed at the European market - a US version would require some changes.
IDMP_on_FHIR_Course_Review.pdf
Jean Duteau (Sep 01 2020 at 15:59):
@René Spronk - I think this is a good outline. How much of the product data were you planning on representing in IDMP? That exercise could be very complicated and head-scratching for attendees given the complexity of the underlying v3 model. It will obviously serve as a wonderful segue into the FHIR Basics and why EMA decided to go with FHIR instead of V3 for product submissions.
Christof Gessner (Sep 01 2020 at 16:28):
I suggest a short part on the comparison of requirements to describe a "Medicinal Product" in a regulatory context vs in patient care processes. How the 80/20 rule produces rather different FHIR constructs for the two domains. And how MedicationKnowledge connects between the two.
René Spronk (Sep 01 2020 at 17:10):
@Christof Gessner - we've received that comment before (a couple of times). This is part of the material covered, but it would be better if it were to called out as a separate item on the agenda. That would make it clear that the issue is taken seriously and will be covered during the course.
René Spronk (Sep 01 2020 at 17:14):
@Jean Duteau Exercises during a course like this will mostly be based on the "here's an example, go and create a cloned version with changes X, Y and Z". Thus the scope is manageable.
René Spronk (Sep 01 2020 at 17:15):
Note that the course is focused on implementers & "IDMP as expressed in FHIR", so the v3 model won't be discussed in a detailed fashion.
Scott Robertson (Sep 03 2020 at 00:11):
minor point: you have "terminologies/how codes work in FHIR" in the "SPOR implementation" section. wouldn't that be better placed in the "FHIR basics" section?
Otherwise, it is a good outline. Time management will be key, you could easily take more than the 2 days / 15 hours planned
René Spronk (Sep 03 2020 at 06:16):
Hi Scott - this is one of the things one learns to deal with when one designs a course. Don't get sidetracked during the presentation, focus on the 80% of the 80%, attendees can deal with the rest later. If there are too many details in a course, people won't remember anyway. But yes, the instinctive drive of the expert to include 'as much as possible' has to be resisted - it'always about 'what things to take out' instead of ' what extra things to include'.
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