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Topic: How to create a concept property for grouping properties


view this post on Zulip Lin Zhang (Oct 09 2021 at 09:10):

How to create a concept property for grouping other concept properties?

view this post on Zulip Lin Zhang (Oct 09 2021 at 09:14):

In other words, how to create a property group for a concept?

view this post on Zulip Michael Lawley (Oct 09 2021 at 09:16):

There is no way to express this in a CodeSystem

view this post on Zulip Lin Zhang (Oct 09 2021 at 09:16):

OR could a concept property have nested properties?

view this post on Zulip Michael Lawley (Oct 09 2021 at 09:17):

It is supported by lookup because snomed does it, but that comes from their native format

view this post on Zulip Lin Zhang (Oct 09 2021 at 09:17):

@Michael Lawley Thanks

view this post on Zulip Lin Zhang (Oct 09 2021 at 09:17):

Yes, you're right.

view this post on Zulip Lin Zhang (Oct 09 2021 at 09:18):

I know SCT has this feature

view this post on Zulip Lin Zhang (Oct 09 2021 at 09:21):

But I'm wondering how it is represented in the FHIR CS structure.

view this post on Zulip Michael Lawley (Oct 09 2021 at 09:27):

It isn't :)

view this post on Zulip Michael Lawley (Oct 09 2021 at 09:28):

It is not the goal of the FHIR CS structure to be able to represent all things that code systems do. This is one that got left out.

view this post on Zulip Michael Lawley (Oct 09 2021 at 09:28):

However we are about to look at designing an extension to allow this (for another code system)

view this post on Zulip Lin Zhang (Oct 09 2021 at 09:29):

Alright, but it's a pity. Love to see that :big_smile:

view this post on Zulip Michael Lawley (Oct 10 2021 at 03:03):

What is your use case? Ours is ingredient strength for medication codes

view this post on Zulip Lin Zhang (Oct 12 2021 at 08:05):

The International Standard Industrial Classification of All Economic Activities (ISIC) is provided by Statistics Division, United Nations' Department of Economic and Social Affairs
https://unstats.un.org/unsd/classifications/Econ/isic

There are inclusions and/or exclusions for a ISIC's code.
And our national Industrial Classification Standard is based on ISIC.
I want to represent such inclusions and/or exclusions in the FHIR CodeSystem resource.

view this post on Zulip Lin Zhang (Oct 12 2021 at 08:14):

But there may be subgroup(s) in these inclusions, like sublists.

view this post on Zulip Lin Zhang (Oct 12 2021 at 08:55):

Example code:

https://unstats.un.org/unsd/classifications/Econ/Structure/Detail/EN/27/0113

view this post on Zulip Lin Zhang (Oct 12 2021 at 09:01):

Another example code:
https://unstats.un.org/unsd/classifications/Econ/Structure/Detail/EN/27/2220

view this post on Zulip Michael Lawley (Oct 12 2021 at 09:20):

Thanks @Lin Zhang . Looking at those pages, the lists of inclusions and exclusions look more like CodeSystem.concept.definition than properties per-se. Personally, I think properties are mostly (only) really useful if their contents are machine-usable (eg for ValueSet definition or by clients using $lookup).

view this post on Zulip Lin Zhang (Oct 12 2021 at 09:44):

I agree.


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