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Topic: 11179 storage issue


view this post on Zulip Grahame Grieve (Sep 07 2018 at 21:11):

11179 defines that an element can have different value domains - different codes that have the same meaning, but are used in different places. e.g. 1= M, 2=F, 4 = U, 9= O (to use a long defined australian code system for gender). We have 2 extensions defined for this: http://build.fhir.org/extension-11179-permitted-value-valueset.html and http://build.fhir.org/extension-11179-permitted-value-conceptmap.html. I'm not sure that's an optimal set of definitions, and I've just created a task (GF#17828) to review them. Thought I'd alert vocab to their existence, and ask if vocab has any systematic approach here.

view this post on Zulip Rob Hausam (Sep 07 2018 at 21:26):

Don't know offhand about any systematic approach, but we'll definitely want to look at it.

view this post on Zulip Lloyd McKenzie (Sep 07 2018 at 21:29):

Actually it says that each data element has both a domain value and a permitted value. One defines the meaning (and apparently the exchange) and the other defines what gets stored.

view this post on Zulip Grahame Grieve (Sep 07 2018 at 22:50):

that's not what ISO 11179 actually says

view this post on Zulip Lloyd McKenzie (Sep 07 2018 at 23:14):

That's how it was explained by people who ought to know it pretty well. In any event, I'm fine with whatever solution vocab likes

view this post on Zulip Grahame Grieve (Sep 07 2018 at 23:35):

the domain value is conceptual, and then there's the syntax you use to represent the vlaue.

view this post on Zulip Grahame Grieve (Sep 07 2018 at 23:36):

I argued to Ed Barkmeyer (author) that this is fundamentally insane, but the interoperability view point is not part of their world. it's fine if different systems have different non-compatible representations of the same data element, that's their right. as long as they mean the same thing.

view this post on Zulip Grahame Grieve (Sep 07 2018 at 23:37):

I'm not surprised that in the interop world, this collapses to public/private, since what else could you do? but it's not the underlying notion of 11179


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