Stream: fmg
Topic: Ballot Finalization
Grahame Grieve (Dec 19 2017 at 21:40):
here's my list of resources in draft status:
Grahame Grieve (Dec 19 2017 at 21:41):
PaymentReconciliation
AdverseEvent
BiologicallyDerivedProduct
ChargeItem
DeviceUseStatement
EntryDefinition
EventDefinition
ExampleScenario
ImmunizationEvaluation
ImplementationGuideInput
ImplementationGuideOutput
Invoice
ItemInstance
Linkage
MedicinalProduct
MedicinalProductAuthorization
MedicinalProductClinicals
MedicinalProductDeviceSpec
MedicinalProductIngredient
MedicinalProductPackaged
MedicinalProductPharmaceutical
MessageDefinition
OccupationalData
OrganizationRole
ProductPlan
ResearchStudy
ResearchSubject
ServiceDefinition
SubstancePolymer
SubstanceReferenceInformation
SubstanceSpecification
TerminologyCapabilities
TestReport
UserSession
VerificationResult
Grahame Grieve (Dec 19 2017 at 21:41):
you have about 1hr to review this list
Grahame Grieve (Dec 19 2017 at 21:41):
task for FMG: clean up the records of what is approved and what is not
Paul Knapp (Dec 19 2017 at 21:44):
PaymentReconciliation shouldn't be draft.
Grahame Grieve (Dec 19 2017 at 21:47):
I do not see an approved resource proposal for it
Grahame Grieve (Dec 19 2017 at 21:47):
but yes, it was trial use on the last ballot so it remains trial use
Lloyd McKenzie (Dec 19 2017 at 21:55):
ImmunizationEvaluation is split from Immunization, so has the same status. ResearchStudy and ResearchSubject were renamed from Study and StudyParticipation but are approved. I'm pretty sure TestReport was also approved but it looks like it was not updated. @Anne Wizauer, can you investigate? Nothing else on that list jumps out to me as wrong.
Brian Postlethwaite (Dec 19 2017 at 22:26):
The PA draft stuff looks right.
Grahame Grieve (Dec 19 2017 at 22:32):
thx
Grahame Grieve (Dec 20 2017 at 04:25):
Another question: this time, for the first time, we have non-realm specific IG guides to publish
Grahame Grieve (Dec 20 2017 at 04:26):
I propose to publish them at http://hl7.org/fhir/uv/[code]
Grahame Grieve (Dec 20 2017 at 04:26):
people have approximately 15 min (sorry) to comment on that
Grahame Grieve (Dec 20 2017 at 04:27):
(as opposed, to, for US-Core: http://hl7.org/fhir/us/core)
Josh Mandel (Dec 20 2017 at 19:32):
I'm going to be on a flight during the start of today's call -- I will endeavor to join during my layover from Detroit.
Grahame Grieve (Dec 20 2017 at 19:34):
Engaging with the ballot desktop is frustrating because of the byzantine complexity of the ballot process. (which we're contributing too, I know)
Grahame Grieve (Dec 20 2017 at 19:35):
FHIR main is:
HL7 Fast Healthcare Interoperability Resources (FHIR®) Specification, Release 1 (PI ID: 891) O4
Grahame Grieve (Dec 20 2017 at 19:35):
US core is
HL7 FHIR® Profile: US-Core, Release 1 STU Release 2 (PI ID: 1372) D1
Grahame Grieve (Dec 20 2017 at 19:36):
PHD is
HL7 FHIR® Implementation Guide: Point-of-care Device (PoCD), Release 1 (PI ID: 1277) I1
Grahame Grieve (Dec 20 2017 at 19:36):
I don't even know the difference in effect between I1 and O1
Grahame Grieve (Dec 20 2017 at 19:37):
note that according to the ballot, US-Core has 3 versions
Grahame Grieve (Dec 20 2017 at 19:37):
Release 1, release 2m, and based on FHIR release 3
Grahame Grieve (Dec 20 2017 at 19:39):
we really need to simplify this... but there's things here that I don't understand. Is anyone clever enough to draw a diagram indicating how the main FHIR spec is balloted, and how IGs are balloted that is
a/ compreheneible
b/ usefully related to what the ballot desktop says
(I think I could have a stab at (a) but don't expect to get (b) right and I suspect I've missed something
Grahame Grieve (Dec 20 2017 at 19:40):
but it's wrong and hopelessly misleading to call this FHIR R1 draft 4 - crazy
Lloyd McKenzie (Dec 20 2017 at 20:46):
I1 = Informative, ballot 1
O1 = For Comment, ballot 1
Lloyd McKenzie (Dec 20 2017 at 20:46):
Why an IG is being balloted as Informative, I have no clue
Lloyd McKenzie (Dec 20 2017 at 20:47):
This isn't really a ballot desktop issue, it's an artifact naming issue
Lloyd McKenzie (Dec 20 2017 at 20:47):
"Release 1 STU Release 2" is totally out to lunch...
Grahame Grieve (Dec 20 2017 at 20:48):
well, the ballot desktop magnifies it, but yes, an artifact naming issue, based on GOM assumptions I guess
Grahame Grieve (Dec 20 2017 at 20:48):
so what's the difference in effect between O and I?
Lloyd McKenzie (Dec 20 2017 at 20:48):
It's called "draft 4" because it's the 4th draft ballot we've ever put out. Sequence, apparently, doesn't matter. (Our first 3 drafts were at the very beginning.
Lloyd McKenzie (Dec 20 2017 at 20:49):
Draft ballots don't reallly "count" from ANSI's perspective. An Informative ballot though can be passed and allows something to be submitted to ANSI as a "Technical Report" (whatever that means)
Lloyd McKenzie (Dec 20 2017 at 20:50):
In any case, FMG should have a policy on what artifacts can be balloted on the Informative track (which can be draft or informative) and which must be normative track (draft, STU or normative). I think IGs should always be the latter.
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