Stream: openehr
Topic: CKM ValueSets
Diego Bosca (Nov 28 2019 at 08:46):
I've extracted all available ValueSets from openEHR CKM archetypes (in coded texts, ordinals and quantity units) so they can be reused. 1023 ValueSets have been generated.
https://linkehr.veratech.es/fhir/openehr_valuesets.html
Grahame Grieve (Nov 28 2019 at 10:15):
are you interested in publishing these as an NPM package?
Grahame Grieve (Nov 28 2019 at 10:16):
also this:
Grahame Grieve (Nov 28 2019 at 10:16):
<system value="openEHR-EHR-OBSERVATION.abbey_pain_scale.v0"/>
Grahame Grieve (Nov 28 2019 at 10:17):
has to be a valid URI. So you'd need to prefix something... I would think this would be better:
Grahame Grieve (Nov 28 2019 at 10:17):
http://http://openehr.org/ckm/ValueSet/openEHR-EHR-OBSERVATION.abbey_pain_scale.v0 or something
Diego Bosca (Nov 28 2019 at 12:36):
Oh, that's true. I will change that to an uri. What are the requirements to generate a NPM package?
Grahame Grieve (Nov 28 2019 at 15:52):
several:
- all the resource in JSON not XML (there are bulk converters)
- in a tgz (instead of a zip) in \package subfolder in the tgz
- also include package.json with appropriate details - see https://confluence.hl7.org/display/FHIR/NPM+Package+Specification
Diego Bosca (Nov 29 2019 at 09:23):
I've updated the ValueSets to fix the system part. Now the uri points to the actual CKM archetype.
There is also a new generated ValueSet so the count goes up to 1024
Grahame Grieve (Nov 29 2019 at 09:25):
so.. the url is an improvement but isn't there more than one value set per archetype? Also, the URL for the archetype itself should be for the structure definition that represents it (once it exists)
Thomas Beale (Nov 29 2019 at 09:32):
so.. the url is an improvement but isn't there more than one value set per archetype? Also, the URL for the archetype itself should be for the structure definition that represents it (once it exists)
In general there is. The value sets have codes like acNN. Not all codes defined in an archetype are in a value set.
Grahame Grieve (Nov 29 2019 at 09:33):
so @Diego Bosca you should probably add the acNN to the URL
Diego Bosca (Nov 29 2019 at 09:38):
each subset inside of the archetype has a disjoint set of codes, so IMHO having the Uri as the archetype and the atcode/accode as the code identifies the term univocally in all the openEHR space
Grahame Grieve (Nov 29 2019 at 09:40):
you're talking about the code system there, not the value sets. The value sets themselves must have unique urls
Diego Bosca (Nov 29 2019 at 09:43):
and they have, e.g. http://linkehr.com/fhir/ValueSet-blood-pressure-v2-cuffsize-R4 and http://linkehr.com/fhir/ValueSet-blood-pressure-v2-locationofmeasurement-R4
Diego Bosca (Nov 29 2019 at 09:43):
2 different valuesets from the same archetype
Diego Bosca (Nov 29 2019 at 09:44):
need to config the server, but the idea is that uri would get you to the xml or json depending on the preference
Grahame Grieve (Nov 29 2019 at 09:47):
oh you are right. my apologies.
Grahame Grieve (Nov 29 2019 at 09:47):
is there a useable relationship between http://linkehr.com/fhir/ValueSet-blood-pressure-v2-locationofmeasurement-R4 and the ckm?
Diego Bosca (Nov 29 2019 at 09:49):
yeah, system uri should open the archetype directly on the CKM
Grahame Grieve (Nov 29 2019 at 09:50):
I wonder if we packaged up these value sets and code systems, CIMI would consider using them in HL7 publications?
Grahame Grieve (Nov 29 2019 at 09:52):
@Thomas Beale does openEHR want to have governance on the official URLs for structure definitions, value sets and code systems derived from CKM? Or do we just go with the linkehr.com urls?
Thomas Beale (Nov 29 2019 at 10:43):
What we actually have to do is construct the openEHR flavour of URIs/URLs for terms and value-sets interior to archetypes, then think about what the relationship is with FHIR-flavoured URIs generated as Diego has done from LinkEHR. Because ultimately these are pointing to the same semantic thing, but (maybe) in different concrete forms.
Grahame Grieve (Nov 29 2019 at 10:54):
ok. it would be good if you could... I think that the eco-system is at the point where referring to CKM defined artifacts would be useful, and it basically requires you to do that
Diego Bosca (Dec 02 2019 at 09:36):
I'm just creating this linkehr uris because I can put things there, but I'm happy generating other uris/putting this where it fits most
Diego Bosca (Feb 27 2020 at 17:39):
Regenerated ValueSets today. We are up to 1507 ValueSets. You can access them under same url.
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