Stream: australia
Topic: Referencing external terminolgies
Brett Esler (Feb 14 2018 at 04:35):
@Grahame Grieve in the core spec there are external terminology systems referenced under hl7.org e.g.
http://hl7.org/fhir/sid/icpc-2
http://hl7.org/fhir/sid/icf-nl
http://hl7.org/fhir/ndfrt
are the different bases http://hl7.org/fhir/sid/ or http://hl7.org/fhir/ a choice or part of history?
is there a current preferred way? will go that way for AU specs also where needed
Grahame Grieve (Feb 14 2018 at 05:48):
sid was something we introduced early, and probably should have copied for ndfrt - there's no poicy reason why they're different
Brian Postlethwaite (Oct 19 2020 at 06:30):
Wondering if other's have sorted issues with IG's that use the NCTS terminologies?
Code System URI 'https://healthterminologies.gov.au/fhir/CodeSystem/ihi-status-1' is unknown so the code cannot be validated
or gtin and pbs codes?
Richard Townley-O'Neill (Oct 20 2020 at 00:35):
Not me.
Brian Postlethwaite (Oct 20 2020 at 00:38):
@Brett Esler @Danielle Tavares @Shovan Roy @Shovan Roy @Shovan (not sure which Shovan you are :wink: )
Brett Esler (Oct 20 2020 at 00:45):
no - we just have a naked link; NCTS terminologies land in the right place for viewing; and enhancement is coming for the presentation in the future. No validation is done for NCTS in the IG build; only terminologies in FHIR tx server are used for the build. PBS and GTIN in AU base are referred to as external codesystems only - general GTIN validation is not a thing; this is a product catalouge that changes and don;t think there is a publication of content; PBS could be done as FHIR but not sure where this is at
@Liam Barnes @Jim Steel @Michael Lawley
Brett Esler (Oct 20 2020 at 00:47):
Can do regular validation as you'd expect by loading all the terminology referenced; profiles and then validating.
Jim and Michael - if we loaded everything into Onto that could be used for 'complete' validation of instances right?
Brian Postlethwaite (Oct 20 2020 at 00:47):
There's really 2 issues here, 1 is for the GTIN/PBS, just to recognise them, but not validate them - bare codesystem I guess, but the NCSTS stuff - enabling validation to know about them.
Liam Barnes (Oct 20 2020 at 00:53):
The representation of PBS in FHIR is being progressed by Dept of Health. I don't have visibility of it and have not been able to get an update on it.
Brett Esler (Oct 20 2020 at 01:14):
We don't have packages to reference to bring in CodeSystem content from NCTS; in theory we could... would need to work out published versions etc. ; SNOMED validation is based on what is loaded in the IG build tx server so that needs SCT-AU generally for that stuff.
Brett Esler (Oct 20 2020 at 01:36):
basically a terminology package - could do the trick I think for an IG at a point in time - this has been floated before however NCTS is running more as a live service and IG publisher won't pick up external resources based on reference by URL alone
Shovan Roy (Oct 20 2020 at 01:50):
Brian Postlethwaite said:
Wondering if other's have sorted issues with IG's that use the NCTS terminologies?
Code System URI 'https://healthterminologies.gov.au/fhir/CodeSystem/ihi-status-1' is unknown so the code cannot be validated
or gtin and pbs codes?
we do face the same warnings with default IG-Publisher. OnTo server FHIR validation works after loading the terminology https://healthterminologies.gov.au/fhir/CodeSystem/ihi-status-1
Brett Esler (Oct 20 2020 at 02:26):
When we rely on SCT-AU the international tx server for IG build does not guarantee up to date international versions so often get QA warnings on that content also. @Jim Steel @Michael Lawley - in theory we could do local IG build referencing a fully populated Onto instance and get a good result - right?
Michael Lawley (Oct 20 2020 at 02:29):
Yes
Michael Lawley (Oct 20 2020 at 02:31):
I still don't entirely follow why the IG config can't be used to point at a different tx server. You'd probably want some kind of whitelisting to protect the build server, but that should be simple
Grahame Grieve (Oct 20 2020 at 02:31):
it's on my to do list
Michael Lawley (Oct 20 2020 at 02:47):
I'm assuming it's an update to https://github.com/FHIR/auto-ig-builder ?
Michael Lawley (Oct 20 2020 at 02:52):
Or it should be behaviour associated with IGBuildMode.AUTOBUILD?
Grahame Grieve (Oct 20 2020 at 06:14):
it'll be in the java code, associated with autobuild
Grahame Grieve (Oct 20 2020 at 06:14):
but it's actually waiting for me to have a chance to work on the codableconcept validation problem
Brian Postlethwaite (Oct 20 2020 at 09:02):
Is there a parameter to pass to the builder (for my own CI process) ?
Grahame Grieve (Oct 20 2020 at 09:03):
no. And at present there's no other server than mine that supports the IG builder
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