Stream: implementers
Topic: devdays'17 discussions
Jens Villadsen (Nov 01 2017 at 11:20):
I would like to book a slot at sometime in Amsterdam to discuss the current design of the subscription resource. Would anyone like to join me?
Richard Ettema (Nov 01 2017 at 14:57):
I would be interested.
Richard Ettema (Nov 01 2017 at 14:57):
FYI - I'm working on an exercise for my testing session where I hope to engage some attendees with developing TestScripts for an upcoming FHIR Connectathon test track and the Subscriptions Track is one possibility.
Grahame Grieve (Nov 01 2017 at 22:07):
I'm interested
Stefan Lang (Nov 02 2017 at 07:46):
+1
Christiaan Knaap (Nov 07 2017 at 12:13):
+1
Kirt Schaper (Nov 08 2017 at 16:13):
I'm interested
Jens Villadsen (Nov 09 2017 at 09:52):
Looks like we are gonna have a party ... I'll see if can find the time to make a gist with some of the stuff I would like to discuss and y'all can join in with your stuff as well. With at least 6 people joining in it looks like we are gonna have a party ;)
Brian Postlethwaite (Nov 10 2017 at 09:25):
+1
Bryn Rhodes (Nov 10 2017 at 21:16):
+1
Jens Villadsen (Nov 14 2017 at 21:58):
I expect everyone to have a busy schedule at the devdays but I can image that @Grahame Grieve's is one of the most busy ones ... - meaning: @Grahame Grieve will you propose a timeslot where you will be available for this?
nicola (RIO/SS) (Nov 14 2017 at 22:18):
+1
Jens Villadsen (Nov 14 2017 at 23:38):
My list is here: https://gist.github.com/jkiddo/e773d033c245c2c4fdef6d35cbe1a75b - please add comments and stuff if you feel like it
Grahame Grieve (Nov 15 2017 at 04:59):
I certainly want to have that discussion; I'll make it a BoF session - organise this morning
Kevin Marks (Nov 15 2017 at 08:40):
Grahame mentioned problems with Signature in Bundle - is there a time to discuss this ?
Grahame Grieve (Nov 15 2017 at 08:51):
well, let's start with the security talk tomorrow, and then see where it goes from there
Grahame Grieve (Nov 15 2017 at 08:51):
Subscriptions BoF: 15:30 today in Muhammed
Michael Christensen (Nov 15 2017 at 09:03):
@Jens Villadsen Unable to attend DevDays this year but very interested in hearing about the discussions on subscription. I am f.ex. interested in how/if FHIR subscriptions can be implemented using messaging systems like Apache Kafka or RabbitMQ. We are using Kafka with FHIR, but in a non-standard way. I know IBM are doing similar stuff when Watson pub/subs FHIR resources.
Grahame Grieve (Nov 15 2017 at 09:05):
we should largely be agnostic for this message delivery systems, I think - just another enddpoint url
nicola (RIO/SS) (Nov 15 2017 at 10:20):
I have a short message (10min) about system2system integration based on FHIR "transaction log", which is closely related to subscriptions - may be combine it?
Grahame Grieve (Nov 15 2017 at 10:43):
sure. come join us.. and actually, we will be in Oprah, not Muhammed
nicola (RIO/SS) (Nov 15 2017 at 10:44):
Today? What time?
Grahame Grieve (Nov 15 2017 at 10:45):
15:30
nicola (RIO/SS) (Nov 15 2017 at 10:47):
Awesome!
Marten Smits (Nov 15 2017 at 12:15):
@Simone Heckmann , @Alexander Henket and I want to have a BoF session on "versioning Profiles", discussing what to do with canonical URLS, references, etc. when you introduce a change to an already published profiles. Discussing strategies, tools, and best practices for this. Anyone else interested? @Martijn Harthoorn for Simplifier? @Lloyd McKenzie ? @Grahame Grieve ?
Grahame Grieve (Nov 15 2017 at 12:16):
i'm interested
Kevin Marks (Nov 15 2017 at 12:24):
I'm interested too
Marten Smits (Nov 15 2017 at 12:25):
7 PM at the Oprah. Does that suit everyone?
Lloyd McKenzie (Nov 15 2017 at 12:26):
Works for me. Grahame may be booked
Marten Smits (Nov 15 2017 at 12:27):
I alligned it with other BoF sessions, let me know it doesn't work, we can still change it.
Grahame Grieve (Nov 15 2017 at 12:39):
I can do that
Marten Smits (Nov 15 2017 at 12:39):
Great
Kevin Marks (Nov 15 2017 at 12:59):
Re subscription, there's a w3c standard in Proposed Recommendation - worth a look: https://www.w3.org/TR/websub/
Grahame Grieve (Nov 15 2017 at 15:20):
@Kevin Marks do you know the authors of this
nicola (RIO/SS) (Nov 15 2017 at 17:29):
https://gist.github.com/niquola/d4ce66a7581425fc5cc0825022c572e8
Kevin Marks (Nov 15 2017 at 18:55):
the Android shim I was talking about https://developer.android.com/topic/libraries/support-library/index.html
Kevin Marks (Nov 15 2017 at 18:58):
in FHIR terms this is like having a way to write, say name.family="Marks" (the R3 syntax)and have it be mapped to name.family=["Marks"] in R2
Kevin Marks (Nov 15 2017 at 20:08):
my notes from today http://www.kevinmarks.com/fhirdevdays2017-11-15.html
Lloyd McKenzie (Nov 16 2017 at 07:53):
Looks like I won't be at multiprofiles as I'll be judging
Kevin Marks (Nov 16 2017 at 13:25):
notes from day 2 so far http://www.kevinmarks.com/fhirdevdays2017-11-16.html
Kevin Marks (Nov 17 2017 at 14:04):
notes from day 3: http://www.kevinmarks.com/fhirdevdays2017-11-17.html
Kevin Mayfield (Nov 17 2017 at 14:29):
Thanks for the notes, very informative.
Jens Villadsen (Nov 17 2017 at 15:04):
@Jens Villadsen Unable to attend DevDays this year but very interested in hearing about the discussions on subscription. I am f.ex. interested in how/if FHIR subscriptions can be implemented using messaging systems like Apache Kafka or RabbitMQ. We are using Kafka with FHIR, but in a non-standard way. I know IBM are doing similar stuff when Watson pub/subs FHIR resources.
I think we need to have a look at http://build.fhir.org/eventdefinition.html ...
Grahame Grieve (Nov 17 2017 at 16:21):
Kafka and RabbitMQ are just different ways of delivering messages, no?
Jens Villadsen (Nov 17 2017 at 17:24):
You could say so, yes: https://content.pivotal.io/blog/understanding-when-to-use-rabbitmq-or-apache-kafka
Grahame Grieve (Nov 18 2017 at 04:16):
do they have schemes associated with them?
nicola (RIO/SS) (Nov 19 2017 at 19:50):
no
Grahame Grieve (Nov 19 2017 at 22:26):
well, that makes life hard. Should they get them?
Ben Spencer (Nov 20 2017 at 06:24):
rabbitmq implements standard messaging protocols: https://www.rabbitmq.com/protocols.html
Kevin Mayfield (Nov 20 2017 at 09:43):
But do you need to put support for any of those (transport protocols) into FHIR? I've used ActiveMQ (as a queue) using Http Request and Response objects which contain FHIR Bundles.
Kevin Mayfield (Nov 20 2017 at 09:56):
(and either HAPI or Apache Camel to provide the FHIR REST api)
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