FHIR Chat · chemotherapy regimens · implementers

Stream: implementers

Topic: chemotherapy regimens


view this post on Zulip Aleksandra Pavlyshina (Jun 22 2016 at 15:07):

Hi All,
could you please advise how to represent chemotherapy regimens in FHIR? In our system, we need to record that a patient is on a chemotherapy regimen, e.g. ICE-V when a nurse care manager is gathering information about medications that a patient is taking. Are there any best practices on how to do it? Is there any preferred dataset for chemotherapy regimens list?

view this post on Zulip Lee Surprenant (Jun 22 2016 at 17:15):

hi @Aleksandra Pavlyshina there are a few of us working in this area, but i havn't seen any formal guidance/recommendations yet. i'm focused on representing chemotherapy order templates using the new PlanDefinition resource being defined. I think @Andrew Ross is leading efforts to support Chemo Regimen via the existing CarePlan resource, so maybe he could send some pointers?

view this post on Zulip Lee Surprenant (Jun 22 2016 at 17:16):

regarding lists of chemo regimen, you could try https://ncit.nci.nih.gov/ncitbrowser/ ? for example https://ncit.nci.nih.gov/ncitbrowser/ConceptReport.jsp?dictionary=NCI_Thesaurus&version=16.05e&ns=NCI_Thesaurus&code=C10345&key=1802929943&b=1&n=null

view this post on Zulip Andrew Ross (Jun 22 2016 at 18:28):

@Aleksandra Pavlyshina in our system, we're representing chemotherapy regimens as FHIR CarePlans, with all of the individual treatments expanded out into a flat list of MedicationOrder/MedicationAdministration activity elements. We also record things like the NCCN ID in the identifier list and link to the patient, their cancer condition, etc, and may use a few small extensions to record information like the current chemotherapy cycle / day within it. Is your use-case more about representing existing scheduled regimens for which you already have data, or picking regimens for new patients?

view this post on Zulip Aleksandra Pavlyshina (Jun 23 2016 at 08:03):

Hi @Lee Surprenant, thank you for quick response!

view this post on Zulip Aleksandra Pavlyshina (Jun 23 2016 at 17:03):

Hello @Andrew Ross, thank you for your response. We are implementing a care management application designed specifically around palliative care. We need to have an accurate list of the medications our patients are taking to 1) identify interactions 2) troubleshoot patient reported issues (may be related to a drug, or multiple drugs they are taking), and 3) identify correlation between adverse events and stopping of a medication. Having an up to date list of medications was a very important item for the care managers we consulted with.
The use-case is as following:
During initial in-home visit to a patient, a nurse care manager talks to a patient and makes up a list of medications he is taking. Patient can say that he is on a specific regimen, e.g. ICE-V.
It's likely that the patient doesn't know details of the regimen and knows only its name or abbreviation. And NCM also doesn't know all lists of medications for all regimens. There is not a list of regimens in our medications source (RxNorm). However, in order to identify drug-drug interactions it's not enough to add a regimen name to a medications list, we need to add concrete medications.
So, it seems like our use-case is more about representing existing scheduled regimens for which we don't have data yet. I'm doing a research on how this kind of information should be entered into application and stored as FHIR resources, which terminology is to be used here.
I suppose that it might look like an option 'Add a Regimen' in application, with a list of existing regimens stored as ordersets, NCM selects the appropriate one from the list (e.g. ICE-V), and the predefined set of medications is loaded and can be added to a patient's medications list where each medication is stored in the MedicationStatement resource.

view this post on Zulip Vadim Peretokin (Jun 28 2017 at 12:21):

@Andrew Ross is your chemotherapy cycle extension published anywhere? I'm facing the same now and would rather re-use an extension than create a duplicate.

view this post on Zulip Ewout Kramer (Jun 30 2017 at 11:40):

Include @Marten Smits in this discussion, and @Mary Visceglia ....

view this post on Zulip Bryn Rhodes (Jun 30 2017 at 22:14):

Here's the one that is used in the KDN5 regimen, is this what you're looking for:

view this post on Zulip Bryn Rhodes (Jun 30 2017 at 22:14):

http://build.fhir.org/extension-timing-daysofcycle.html

view this post on Zulip Vadim Peretokin (Jul 04 2017 at 13:45):

Unfortunately, not quite - my usecase is specifically for recording the # of cycles that have happened


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