FHIR Chat · Specimen in DiagReq · implementers

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Topic: Specimen in DiagReq


view this post on Zulip Jose Montoya (Dec 01 2016 at 23:36):

Hey all,

view this post on Zulip Jose Montoya (Dec 01 2016 at 23:37):

Is there a reason why Specimen was removed from DiagnosticRequest?

view this post on Zulip Jose Montoya (Dec 01 2016 at 23:37):

The client for whom we're implementing the resources is concerned that HL7 had a specimen field inside the DiagOrder and v2 had it, but v3 removed it?

view this post on Zulip Jose Montoya (Dec 02 2016 at 12:01):

Anybody?

view this post on Zulip Grahame Grieve (Dec 02 2016 at 19:09):

@Eric Haas ?

view this post on Zulip Eric Haas (Dec 02 2016 at 19:30):

its coming back. OO went back and forth. Typically the request precedes the specimen so specimen references the request. Sometimes it opposite. Tracker to create either an extension or element. Need to avoid direct cross referencing of resources here.

view this post on Zulip Grahame Grieve (Dec 02 2016 at 20:11):

what goes in the v2 specimen field? type of specimen?

view this post on Zulip Grahame Grieve (Dec 02 2016 at 20:12):

workflows I know of where the specimen comes first:
- biopsy / resection

Workflows where the request comes first
- normal lab (phlebotmoty rounds etc)

view this post on Zulip Grahame Grieve (Dec 02 2016 at 20:12):

but the lab doesn't always see the request before the specimen?

view this post on Zulip Jose Montoya (Dec 03 2016 at 22:05):

It's a ref to the Specimen

view this post on Zulip Jose Montoya (Dec 03 2016 at 22:16):

And related to the changes between DiagOrder and DiagRequest, what happened to Items? Is it coming back as well, or it's expected to only order 1 item per request? Seems to me it should allow multiple items per request.

view this post on Zulip Grahame Grieve (Dec 04 2016 at 05:26):

Follows the same pattern as MedicationRequest - multiple individual DiagnosticRequest, with a grouping item

view this post on Zulip Eric Haas (Dec 04 2016 at 07:03):

DiagnosticRequest now follows the Workflow request pattern = check it out here: http://build.fhir.org/request.html. in V2 there is a specimen segment contains type, identifiers, dates etc. And yes the two workflows are reason why needed references both ways.

view this post on Zulip Jose Montoya (Dec 04 2016 at 21:43):

When speciment gets added back to DiagReq will it be an array as it was in DiagOrder or a single object? Do we know at this point?

view this post on Zulip Grahame Grieve (Dec 04 2016 at 21:46):

you should not assume that it's going to be added back in at this point. You should definitely create a task to ensure that it doesn't get overlooked

view this post on Zulip Eric Haas (Dec 04 2016 at 21:49):

it will be like in DSTU2

view this post on Zulip Jose Montoya (Dec 04 2016 at 21:50):

Ok great, thanks.


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