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Topic: ProcedureRequest.asNeeded[x]


view this post on Zulip Eric Haas (Jan 19 2017 at 02:11):

@Michelle (Moseman) Miller @Danielle Friend @Rob Hausam ProcedureRequest.asNeeded[x],"","0..1","","boolean|CodeableConcept

and

ProcedureRequest.scheduled[x],"","0..1","","dateTime|Period|Timing

These overlap - I think will need an an invariant.

view this post on Zulip Vassil Peytchev (Jan 19 2017 at 02:26):

I think Timing covers the ability to specify "as needed", so should we just stick with Procedure.scheduled?

view this post on Zulip Vassil Peytchev (Jan 19 2017 at 02:27):

I mean ProcedureRequest.scheduled

view this post on Zulip Michelle (Moseman) Miller (Jan 19 2017 at 03:32):

asNeeded = indicates the pre-condition for performing the procedure
scheduled = when.planned
Thus, we can't remove asNeeded (codeableconcept) because Timing doesn't convey pre-conditions.
Also, the dosageInstruction data type supports both asNeeded and Timing as separate elements, so I'm not quite seeing the overlap yet.

view this post on Zulip Vassil Peytchev (Jan 19 2017 at 03:46):

Ah, I misunderstood, sorry

view this post on Zulip Vassil Peytchev (Jan 19 2017 at 03:48):

I thought asNeeded:boolean was just about timing, not pre-condition

view this post on Zulip Eric Haas (Jan 19 2017 at 07:41):

I need an example valueset for this ... any body have a valueset handy.

view this post on Zulip Michelle (Moseman) Miller (Jan 19 2017 at 13:06):

DosageInstruction's asNeeded uses http://build.fhir.org/valueset-medication-as-needed-reason.html

view this post on Zulip Marten Smits (Jan 26 2017 at 10:42):

@Eric Haas @Michelle M Miller In DosageInstructions you can say: take two in the morning (Timing) and when headache occurs (AsNeeded). Can you think of a use case for ProcedureRequest that is similar?

view this post on Zulip Michelle (Moseman) Miller (Jan 26 2017 at 19:12):

What about a procedure request that is for counseling once a week (Timing) as needed for stress?

view this post on Zulip Eric Haas (Jan 26 2017 at 22:27):

A counseling example would be good thanks.

view this post on Zulip Lloyd McKenzie (Jan 27 2017 at 23:15):

Physiotherapy or home excercises would be even more common. E.g. exercises for cystic fibrosis - "Chest therapy 1-4 times per day as needed to clear mucus"


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