FHIR Chat · MedicationStatement - represent frequency with dosage timing · implementers

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Topic: MedicationStatement - represent frequency with dosage timing


view this post on Zulip Pramod Dematagoda (Feb 09 2017 at 21:23):

We have a scenario where a patient is prescribed a medication to be taken "three times daily", but we've already got dosage instructions in our MedicationStatement resource broken down in to three separate timings.

Where would we put the original definition of "three times daily" in the resource?

view this post on Zulip Grahame Grieve (Feb 09 2017 at 21:46):

.dosage.timing

view this post on Zulip Pramod Dematagoda (Feb 09 2017 at 22:12):

So as a fourth timing element in addition to the other three?

view this post on Zulip Grahame Grieve (Feb 09 2017 at 22:17):

what are the other timings?

view this post on Zulip Pramod Dematagoda (Feb 09 2017 at 22:32):

The other timings would be "1 tablet at breakfast", "1 tablet at lunch" and "1 tablet at dinner".

view this post on Zulip Melva Peters (Feb 09 2017 at 23:46):

In my experience you would typically say "Take one tablet three times daily" - which as @Grahame Grieve indicated would go in timing. And then in the "additionalInstructions" you would say "in the morning", "at lunch" and "at dinner".

view this post on Zulip Michelle (Moseman) Miller (Feb 10 2017 at 15:15):

You can use Timing.repeat.when to indicate "at meals"

view this post on Zulip Arianne van de Wetering (Feb 10 2017 at 15:53):

I may not grasp the use case. But sounds to me like 'prescription' and 'medication statement' are two separate resources containing information about potentially the same drug intake.
The medication statement contains the patient view: apparently the patient recorded that the drug is taken at breakfast/lunch/diner, for which timing.repeat.when seems to fit well indeed
The prescription (MedicationRequest in STU3) contains the doctor's intentions, which in this case can simply say 3 times a day.

view this post on Zulip Lloyd McKenzie (Feb 10 2017 at 20:51):

MedicationStatement is intended as a high-level summary that would span multiple prescriptions. Essentially it's saying "patient is on med X". Typically it'll be less formally coded

view this post on Zulip Pramod Dematagoda (Feb 12 2017 at 21:55):

To clarify the use case we have, when a clinician enters a medication that a patient is currently taking (either patient reported or something that the clinician is prescribing), they are able to specify a frequency for the medication (i.e twice daily, three times daily). But in addition to the overall frequency of the medication, they are able to define the times of the day when that medication is intended to be taken.

For example a medication that is supposed to be taken "twice daily", the clinician has the option to specify "1 tablet at breakfast" and "1 tablet at bedtime".
We want to represent this medication as a MedicationStatement, to that end what we do right now is represent the "1 tablet at breakfast" and "1 tablet at bedtime" as two entries in MedicationStatement.dosage.timing (there's appropriate when codes for that), but the dilemma we're facing is in representing the overall "twice daily" bit that the clinician has explicitly entered.
We could represent the overall frequency as a third entry in MedicationStatement.dosage.timing, but would a consumer of that resource be able to make sense of this, where there is both an "overall" and "broken down" version of timings?

Another thing is that we're representing this information using FHIR DSTU2.


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