FHIR Chat · ICD-O-3 CodeSystem URI

I couldn't find a defined CodeSystem URI for ICD-O-3 and i see the need to define this as it is a very important CS in the oncology space.
@May Terry @Halina Labikova @Mark Kramer did you create your own URI for icd-o-3 ?

Alexander Zautke (Feb 18 2020 at 13:23):

I think the only official uri would be based on the "2.16.840.1.113883.6.43.1" oid. See https://www.hl7.org/documentcenter/public/standards/vocabulary/vocabulary_tables/infrastructure/vocabulary/voc_ExternalSystems.html

Mark Kramer (Feb 18 2020 at 14:21):

@Patrick Werner We did not use or assign a code system URL because we couldn't incorporate codes from ICD-O-3 for copyright reasons. It's a proprietary (and legacy, not being updated) vocabulary. We referred to ICD-O-3 only in our documentation.

Patrick Werner (Feb 18 2020 at 14:27):

In Germany the usage of ICD-O-3 is mandatory in the context of cancer registries. The license is distributed by the german DIMDI Institute.

Patrick Werner (Feb 18 2020 at 14:28):

Independently from the copyright reasons i think we should define an URI for icd-o-3. Snomed also has a URI and isn't public domain.

Patrick Werner (Feb 18 2020 at 14:28):

@Grahame Grieve any news from the WHO about ICD10/ICD-O-3 licensing for HL7/FHIR?

Grahame Grieve (Feb 18 2020 at 21:08):

thanks for the reminder. I'll push things along...

Grahame Grieve (Feb 18 2020 at 21:10):

there's 2 different questions - we can assign a URI without copyright issues. It's including them in the IGs and/or supporting them in the publication system that requires copyright agreement

Grahame Grieve (Feb 18 2020 at 21:10):

for the URI.. I would prefer http://hl7.org/fhir/sid/ICD-O-3 - very straight forward.

Grahame Grieve (Feb 18 2020 at 21:11):

but could also use urn:oid:2.16.840.1.113883.6.43.1 too.

Grahame Grieve (Feb 18 2020 at 21:11):

as for german usage.. what is the license terms under which DIMDI distributes it?

Lloyd McKenzie (Feb 18 2020 at 21:14):

Please, please, please let's avoid oid-based systems if humanly possible...

Patrick Werner (Feb 19 2020 at 10:35):

Will go with http://hl7.org/fhir/sid/ICD-O-3 for now.
The german license: https://www.dimdi.de/static/.downloads/english/terms-of-distribution.pdf

Patrick Werner (Feb 19 2020 at 10:36):

i just saw icd-o-3 is missing in the terms pdf, i think that's not intended to miss but was just forgotten to add. Will ask the Dimdi.

Patrick Werner (Feb 19 2020 at 10:38):

found it: https://www.dimdi.de/static/.downloads/deutsch/downloadbedingungen-icd-o-3.pdf (german only but same terms)

Patrick Werner (Feb 19 2020 at 10:45):

https://jira.hl7.org/browse/FHIR-26323

Grahame Grieve (Feb 19 2020 at 11:09):

yes so I was afraid of that - the license only allows use within the borders of Germany (not use anywhere for the purpose of use within Germany) - (let me know if my translation is deficient)