Stream: implementers
Topic: Chat between professionals
Jose Costa Teixeira (Apr 04 2019 at 19:50):
Anyone implementing some sort of chat between care professionals? Anything in the FHIR scope for that?
James Agnew (Apr 04 2019 at 20:10):
Just tell them to create a stream on Zulip ;)
Jose Costa Teixeira (Apr 04 2019 at 20:13):
Would be nice though:) stream Patient 1, Stream Patient 2... Stream "best practices for diabetes", Stream "what is wrong with this hospital's maternity"... :D
Jose Costa Teixeira (Apr 04 2019 at 20:14):
I am looking for similar stuff and wondering if any Implementation had to do chat besides their fhir implementation
Grahame Grieve (Apr 04 2019 at 20:28):
you need HIPAA compliance or GDPR compliance, you can't use Zulip.
Grahame Grieve (Apr 04 2019 at 20:28):
I'm sure that I saw some chat somewhere (Slack?) advertising HIPAA compliance, but I've seen nothing for Europe. Seems like a good market to me
Jose Costa Teixeira (Apr 04 2019 at 20:34):
I know I can't use zulip. Perhaps a off-the-shelf solution is the way to go, but for now i am looking for the interaction between that and FHIR resources e.g. when to send observations Vs when to send a chat message. Or deriving one from the other...
Jose Costa Teixeira (Apr 04 2019 at 20:35):
Still beginning the project but would be nice to see if any experience out there from people doing care coordination
Grahame Grieve (Apr 04 2019 at 20:36):
doing chat is a huge amount of work. I've had discussions before with people who want to merge chat into a healthcare application based on FHIR. My take is: Zulip is open source, build on it. But there's some deep challenges there. @Tim Abbott might want to comment further
Abbie Watson (Apr 04 2019 at 20:36):
Anyone implementing some sort of chat between care professionals? Anything in the FHIR scope for that?
We have, in a few different prototype contexts. Our underlying tech stacks runs RocketChat, Stitch.health, and maybe a couple other HIPAA compliant messaging apps. Most recent project was a full-blown FHIR chatbot and robocaller. Regardless, Communication is 95% likely the resource you want. You can implement a messaging service, email, or real-time chat with that resource. Just depends on your query patterns and whether it's push/pull.
Tim Abbott (Apr 04 2019 at 20:44):
There's several companies that have built HIPAA compliant products/workflows on top of Zulip; the work is more about making sure your integration workflow is compliant than significant changes to the technology.
Grahame Grieve (Apr 04 2019 at 20:47):
thanks. can you provide any references?
John Moehrke (Apr 08 2019 at 15:24):
Anyone implementing some sort of chat between care professionals? Anything in the FHIR scope for that?
There is an IHE profile using FHIR Communication -- mACM -- https://wiki.ihe.net/index.php/Mobile_Alert_Communication_Management(mACM)
John Moehrke (Apr 08 2019 at 15:24):
I am involved in a project that is likely to be using FHIR Communication
Joel Schneider (Apr 16 2019 at 04:12):
XMPP is an open standard for messaging. Not sure about its HIPAA or GDPR compliance, though.
https://xmpp.org/
Josh Mandel (May 01 2019 at 21:14):
(I'd be remiss not to say that MS Teams is in this business with HIPAA support etc ;-))
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