FHIR Chat · CareTeam without patient and encounter · implementers

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Topic: CareTeam without patient and encounter


view this post on Zulip Josh Haskins (Dec 09 2019 at 16:36):

Hi,

In looking at the CareTeam resource, these are care teams that are created for a specific patient and/or encounter.

What resource should we be using if the care teams are permanent? These care teams carry on from one patient to another, are not specific an encounter, and have a membership that does not often change.

I found @Lloyd McKenzie's response here about if there are multiple encounters, then don’t reference to the encounters, only the patient.

However, what is the best practice where the patient and encounters are not the same, leave both the patient and encounter references empty, or use a different resource, such as Organization?

Thank you.

view this post on Zulip Yunwei Wang (Dec 09 2019 at 16:41):

Maybe Organization?

view this post on Zulip Lloyd McKenzie (Dec 09 2019 at 16:48):

Neither subject nor encounter are mandatory. If you have a standing "Code Blue" team, it's fine to use CareTeam for this. Key is that different team members have specific roles/responsibilities.

view this post on Zulip Michele Mottini (Dec 09 2019 at 16:48):

...or Group

view this post on Zulip Lloyd McKenzie (Dec 09 2019 at 16:49):

Group can't act/have responsibility

view this post on Zulip Lloyd McKenzie (Dec 09 2019 at 16:49):

From the definition of CareTeam: "an event, prior to a subject being identified (such as a code blue team or emergency response team)"

view this post on Zulip Michele Mottini (Dec 09 2019 at 16:52):

Ah yes...Group as acted on..so not good for that

view this post on Zulip Yunwei Wang (Dec 09 2019 at 16:52):

The CareTeam resource establishes a set of relationships and roles and is specific to a particular Patient.

view this post on Zulip Yunwei Wang (Dec 09 2019 at 16:54):

Can you have one CareTeam moving from patient to patient?

view this post on Zulip Lloyd McKenzie (Dec 09 2019 at 17:19):

Yeah, that text is wrong. Can you submit a change request to get it corrected @Yunwei Wang

view this post on Zulip Josh Haskins (Dec 09 2019 at 17:21):

Thank you! I shall use CareTeam.

view this post on Zulip Yunwei Wang (Dec 09 2019 at 17:31):

https://jira.hl7.org/browse/FHIR-25290

view this post on Zulip Dave Carlson (Dec 09 2019 at 17:34):

This use case was addressed, in part, by the Validated Healthcare Directory IG. See the CareTeam profile: http://hl7.org/fhir/uv/vhdir/2018Jan/StructureDefinition-vhdir-careteam.html

view this post on Zulip Dave Carlson (Dec 09 2019 at 17:36):

This profile specifically removes subject from the CareTeam with a 0..0 constraint.

view this post on Zulip Yunwei Wang (Dec 09 2019 at 18:54):

@Dave Carlson I followed your link and see some inconsistence in that profile. For example, the Backgroup section says This profile removes careTeam.subject, careTeam.context, careTeam.reasonReference, .... The the Snapshot Table shows careTeam.context has card. 0..1 and careTeam.reasonReference has 0..*.


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