Stream: social
Topic: Hl7 access Databases
srikanth chadalavada (Jun 05 2020 at 03:41):
I am trying to download the hl7 v2.8 normative Microsoft access database. I think I need to purchase it somewhere, I am not sure where. please, appreciate the guidance, Thanks.
Lloyd McKenzie (Jun 05 2020 at 03:43):
@Frank Oemig
Vassil Peytchev (Jun 05 2020 at 04:19):
https://www.hl7.org/implement/standards/product_brief.cfm?product_id=431
Vassil Peytchev (Jun 05 2020 at 04:21):
Note that this is for version 2.8.2
Version 2.9 is already published, but I don't know if there is an Access database available for it yet.
srikanth chadalavada (Jun 05 2020 at 05:15):
I have tried this link, there is no actual download link to database .mdb file.
Frank Oemig (Jun 05 2020 at 06:38):
The database is not for download. Some time ago it was provided via the shop. But HQ told me that this will be changed.
Frank Oemig (Jun 05 2020 at 06:38):
Maybe approach HQ directly for purchase.
Frank Oemig (Jun 05 2020 at 06:41):
PS: is it clear, what the database is designes for?
srikanth chadalavada (Jun 05 2020 at 18:33):
no, it is not clear :). I am trying to build an open source project on my laptop. I know they use hl7 normative databases. I am not very sure how the database is used in their project and why the database is designed for.
Vassil Peytchev (Jun 05 2020 at 19:08):
Which open source project is that?
srikanth chadalavada (Jun 05 2020 at 19:23):
its Hapi project, https://github.com/hapifhir/hapi-hl7v2.
Lloyd McKenzie (Jun 05 2020 at 19:42):
@James Agnew
James Agnew (Jun 05 2020 at 19:50):
Hi @srikanth chadalavada You don't need to build HAPI HL7v2 to use it, just use the compiled binaries.
Building the library from sources is only needed if you're planning on hacking the library's structure generator itself.. it's pretty unlikely that is what you need.
srikanth chadalavada (Jun 05 2020 at 20:07):
Hi James @James Agnew, Yes, Got it. I have been using Hapi .jar s in my project. I thought it would be interesting to see how the library was built, so I am trying to set it up in my local environment.
Frank Oemig (Jun 06 2020 at 07:43):
The database delivers the information which is necessary to build different libraries like hapi and others. I also know some customers taking the information and converting it to whatever they need.
Frank Oemig (Jun 06 2020 at 07:44):
With v2+ this db is not necessary any more.
Lloyd McKenzie (Jun 06 2020 at 14:11):
(v2+ is a planned porting of the publication machinery for v2 to use the same tooling that FHIR uses)
Frank Oemig (Jun 07 2020 at 09:04):
That is currently under examination, but we would like to use the technology. As a result, the standard would become available in Fhir something..
James Agnew (Jun 07 2020 at 13:28):
@srikanth chadalavada I definitely get that, being able to see how stuff works is a lot of the fun in Open Source. :)
To be honest though, I'd recommend just looking at how the rest of the library works. The v2 structure generation is really not easy to get going- It only works on Windows XP (seriously) and we maintain a hacked copy of the database that it uses, so I maintain a VM for this purpose.
This really should get rewritten, but it would be a crazy amount of work and I just can't see myself finding the time...
Frank Oemig (Jun 07 2020 at 17:19):
The source of truth in form of structures will become available as XML/JSON. So as a starting point it is a translation only. Enhancing Hapi is another story...
srikanth chadalavada (Jun 10 2020 at 18:49):
Thanks a lot, @James Agnew @Frank Oemig
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