Stream: cds hooks
Topic: EHR Vendors
Jacob Crump (Jan 27 2018 at 16:06):
Can we get the names of all the EHR vendors so we can test our services?
Manoj Sharma (Jan 27 2018 at 16:18):
Allscripts
Brad Engels (Jan 27 2018 at 16:36):
Kevin mentioned Allscripts, Cerner, Epic, T Systems, and eClinicalworks
Zach Plata (Jan 27 2018 at 19:48):
Cerner's public key: https://gist.github.com/zplata/136f68ad0b77800c5721f2200aa3ced8
Paul Curcio (Jan 27 2018 at 19:49):
What's the expected issuer ("iss") that we can correlate with this key?
Zach Plata (Jan 27 2018 at 19:54):
It should be https://igneous-cds-hooks.herokuapp.com. Let me know if you're seeing mismatch
Chuck Feltner (Jan 27 2018 at 19:59):
T-System public key: https://gist.github.com/cfeltner/06716fb3a9ae879a6a5518bbaff559ed
iss: https://fhirsandbox2.tsysinteropsvcs.net:8100/sites/123
Kevin Shekleton (Jan 27 2018 at 20:58):
For EHR implementers who want to create the jwks.json file, https://mkjwk.org/ is a fantastic resource for generating most of this for you! ;-)
Matt Henkes (Jan 27 2018 at 21:49):
Cerner here, We've just deployed a new version of hour cds-hooks-server with new public/private keys using the jwk format. The public key is accessible at https://igneous-cds-hooks.herokuapp.com/.well-known/jwks.json
Paul Curcio (Jan 27 2018 at 21:57):
Terrific - how can we go about testing this once we configure our hooks to recognize your issuer/JWK?
Matt Henkes (Jan 27 2018 at 21:59):
@Paul Curcio what is your discovery endpoint? We'll add it to our server and give you a call
Paul Curcio (Jan 27 2018 at 22:00):
https://apps.clinicalkey.com/cds-services/
Paul Curcio (Jan 27 2018 at 22:11):
@Matt Henkes , @Zach Plata - we're noticing that the JWT you're sending has the "kid" field in the payload, rather than in the header as per spec (https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7515#section-4.1.4) - is it possible to move the kid to the header?
Kevin Shekleton (Jan 27 2018 at 22:39):
Thank you for catching that @Paul Curcio! I will fix this in the CDS Hooks spec today
Aziz Boxwala (Jan 28 2018 at 00:15):
Any EHRs/clients that can test the medication-prescribe hook?
Kevin Shekleton (Jan 28 2018 at 00:49):
@Aziz Boxwala - Cerner is ready to test medication-prescribe with anyone!
Aziz Boxwala (Jan 28 2018 at 02:08):
@Aziz Boxwala - Cerner is ready to test medication-prescribe with anyone!
We tested with Cerner earlier today and all good. Will retest tomorrow with your new key.
Paul Curcio (Jan 28 2018 at 16:27):
@Matt Henkes @Kevin Shekleton - is there a way to switch patients in the Corner "igneous" sandbox? Can we just pop a different patient ID in the launch URL?
Kevin Shekleton (Jan 28 2018 at 16:27):
Yep, that works
Paul Curcio (Jan 28 2018 at 20:32):
Is someone from Allscripts trying to hit the apps.clinicalkey.com CDS Hooks? If so I'll need to add your issuer and JWKS to the whitelist. Could you send? @Manoj Sharma
Frank Pandolfe (Mar 18 2022 at 15:19):
Wondered if there was any update to this thread... Do we have a list of EMR vendors that support CDS Hooks and their level of support?
Josh Mandel (Mar 18 2022 at 16:05):
Would be good to track somewhere like https://cds-hooks.org/community/erty=*
Frank Pandolfe (Mar 18 2022 at 16:23):
agree. Having a public spot may also encourage those EMR vendors who are lagging to prioritize their effort.
Greg White (Mar 19 2022 at 18:39):
Hi @Frank Pandolfe, Regarding the current status of EHR support for CDS Hooks, I am providing my completely unofficial impressions below:
• Epic release August 2018 or later support the patient-view hook
• Epic release February 2021 also supports the order-sign hooks
• Epic release May 2021 also supports the order-select hook
• Allscripts TouchWorks v.20.0 and latter supports the patient-view hook
• Cerner Millennium Fall 2021 includes support for a specific patient-view use case for government customers. A general rollout of support for the patient- view hook may now be deferred to 2023 due to the impact of the war in Ukraine on developer resources
Tracking EHR support for the specification on cds-hooks.org is an interesting suggestion.
Last updated: Apr 12 2022 at 19:14 UTC
